Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass. Most people are good.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Thursday, April 9, 2026

A deep dive with Pxy: Regarding what AI is doing for demagogues and why

The harsh view of the human condition
The reality, were not idiots, just human

A dive today with Pxy took some interesting turns. The initial query asked for data on how many vocal MAGA propagandists rely on AI to compose effective MAGA demagoguery, lies, slanders and crackpottery. That was followed by a series of related queries that dug into the guts of AI programming and why it is what it is. 

Short answers are maybe no one knows how many use AI to generate demagoguery. Pxy didn’t find any on point data. Also demagogue propagandists could use AI to generate demagoguery because AI does not “decide” to ignore facts and reason in a human sense. So, when AI is asked to generate partisan demagoguery it can and does produce lies, slander, and crackpot claims because it is optimizing for plausible language, not for truth. 

Again, AI is not sentient or conscious in any recognized way. It is software programmed for statistical probabilities of what word follows another. Research on AI‑generated propaganda finds that models can produce convincing falsehoods and narratives. Those are are often more detailed, emotionally loaded, and rhetorically polished than human disinfo, because they “fill in” with whatever sounds coherent even if it is fabricated. AI doesn’t ignore facts. It simply has no built‑in preference for facts unless it’s been trained or instructed to prioritize facts and reason over a fluent, toxic MAGA screed.

As Pxy puts it: The core architecture of large language models is optimized for fluent next‑word prediction, not for epistemic hygiene. Truth is an emergent property, not the primary objective.

How nice, epistemic hygiene. Wonderful, AI has epistemic herpes!!  /s

Why is AI allowed to generate demagoguery at all? It can be built to strongly avoid lies, slanders and crackpottery by imposing fact and logic checking rules. But that isn’t done because facts and logic are bitterly disputed by bad people operating in what I call bad faith and malice. The bad people call fact checking and anti-crackpot rules tyranny and censorship. A “truth basis” for AI would be attacked as biased or illegitimate by people and interests that are disadvantaged by fact, robust truths and sound reasoning. Making a consumer AI that relentlessly privileges evidence over personal vibes or tribes, especially in polarized American politics, cuts directly against core commercial and political incentives that put AI on the market in the first place.[1]

Somatic practices = heavier reliance on facts, 
robust truths & sound (conscious) reasoning 


We are what we are, not anything more
But why are things like that? Pxy gave the expected answer. Paraphrasing, it’s the human condition, stupid! 

In politics, human ignorance and unconscious biases such as motivated reasoning and logic flaws can be major factors because that’s how the human species actually evolved and works. Our democracy and institutions sit on top of messy human psychology and bias, not outside of it. Human political reasoning is mostly intuitive, emotional, biased, argumentative and tribal by default, a good way to keep politics from degenerating into lies- and slanders-larded Trump‑style filth is to build and enforce AI rules that support facts, robust truths, and sound reasoning. 

Political cognition research shows that most people almost always form opinions based on emotion, biases and identity first. After that, they apply conscious reasoning to rationalize those positions, not to question them. Faced with inconvenient facts or reasoning often makes partisan believers more skilled at defending their false beliefs and flawed reasoning. At least with politics, most humans are mostly partisan arguers, not reasoned thinkers. Human biases, loyalties and identity are the human traits that bad faith or malicious authoritarian elites and demagogues exploit. Those factors drive in‑group / out‑group dynamics. The normal human intolerance of uncertainty makes people more vulnerable to malicious demagogic narratives like Trumpism. American authoritarian demagogues are using AI to better exploit the human traits that lead them to wealth and power.


Footnote:
1. Any strong requirement that AI downgrade or refuse certain claims, e.g., “the 2020 election was stolen”, is instantly framed and smeared as political suppression by bad faith actors who need to rely on that lie. That makes robust guardrails for facts, truths and sound reason politically and economically costlyTech companies have economic incentives to avoid becoming explicit arbiters of political truth because they fear regulatory retaliation, user backlash, and loss of access in key markets, so they default to vague “community standards” rather than hard factual baselines.


Rut roh! If that’s true, we’re in real trouble --
MAGA doesnt do in-group self-policing
☹️

Tuesday, April 7, 2026

Before and after photos

Can you spot the difference?



Q: Can any dollar value be placed on clean air, or is that communism or socialism?

I heard something.

 Something, apparently, is going to happen at 8 PM tonight. 

I assume it's meant to be EST.

Does anyone know what is gonna happen tonight at 8 PM?

Should I have the remote ready in case?

Or can I just ignore any rumors or suggestions and go back to watching hockey?

Trump breaks the US Forest Service to help break democracy


Trump proposes degrading US Forest Service (FS) functions from management and public service to a resource for private interest plunder. The proposed changes include (1) moving FS headquarters from Washington, DC, to Salt Lake City, Utah, (2) closing all ten regional offices that have structured FS management for over a century, (3) closing more than fifty FS research facilities in thirty‑one states, and (4) getting rid of senior FS employees with experience in forest management science. As is usual for Trump and MAGA politics, the overall impact is to shift power away from career federal land managers and the public interest toward Western state governors and special interests who can profit from taking ownership of public lands and exploiting the new resource. Link 1, link 2, link 3, link 4

This kleptocratic authoritarian war on the public interest functions of the FS is not a one‑off bureaucratic reshuffle in the name of efficiency. This is another part of MAGA’s broader project to redirect wealth and power from the public interest to a few oligarchs and loyalist interests. Trump’s economic record clearly shows that tax cuts, regulatory rollbacks, and targeted deals consistently enrich billionaire donors and politically connected corporations while working‑class supporters are told to wait for a populist payoff that, not surprisingly, never arrives. Link 5, link 6

Mugging of the public interest like this advances Project 2025’s explicit agenda to politicize and “weaponize” the federal workforce by replacing independent civil servants with morally compromised, ideologically reliable appointees. By degrading merit‑based hiring and protections, MAGA elites have turned pro-public interest federal agencies into instruments of presidential will and power and profit for allied special interests. This has nothing to do with respect and support for law, science or the public interest. It is the opposite of that. Link 7, link 8

Ideologically, this is demagogued as “anti‑elitism” and rebellion against snotty coastal experts. In reality it is radical right authoritarian class warfare against knowledge workers who stand between rapacious MAGA elites and our precious public resources they. Scientists, career land managers, and regulators are smeared as enemies of “the people” precisely because their professional norms oblige them to protect the public interest, future generations and the environment. Link 9, link 10


Clearly, the authoritarian move here is to make democracy itself look impotent and corrupt. Trump and MAGA are doing that by corrupting and breaking public institutions so they cannot deliver for the people. When national forests burn, watersheds degrade, and communities suffer, MAGA leaders blame “broken government”. That conveniently ignores the fact that MAGA is systematically breaking government to justify taking more power from the people and the public interest and transferring it to authoritarian ideologues and private interests. Constraints from science, law, and the common good are all being, as Trump would put it, obliterated.