Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass. Most people are good.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Sunday, August 23, 2026

Will the Dem establishment sell out to Trump and MAGA tyranny? There’s so damn much money there!



Three power centers

Although there are many factions and interests competing for influence in the rambunctious Dem Party, three major, non-homogenous groups seem to be crystallizing into more or less coherent power centers. One is the democratic socialists. They are leftist radicals who are so angry at how capitalism has screwed them over that they want to replace it with honest to Dog socialism. Those people are never going to get what they want, but they’re giving it the old college try anyway.

The next big power center is around groups of more or less moderate Dems who go by the label social democrats. In general, those people want to reasonably re-regulate capitalism like it was in the pre-radical right tyranny & corruption MAGA days. They want to leave capitalism mostly intact as it is, while trying to bring it back under a reasonable degree of pro-public interest control. In terms of policy, that’s where bipartisan majority or near-majority public opinion generally lies on many or maybe most major policy issues.

But there’s the third group, roughly the old Dem “establishment”. Those people and interests are mostly major donors, corporate “neoliberal” Dems, elected politicians and organized labor. That cluster of groups is starting to give off a very unfriendly vibe. The donor and corporate Dems have most of the power because they have most of the cash. As we all know, money is power. We do have a pay-to-play two-party political system.


What is that smell?

For average, normal people sensitive to the possibility of being sold out by politicians in power, a NYT article, Jeffries and Kushner Meet Privately as Midterm Attacks Fly, instantly raises a huge red flag about the direction the elite Dem establishment might want to take the party. They may want to sell out to Trump and MAGA to protect their wealth and power. That is not new. People and interests like Bezos, Zuckerberg and some big law firms have already sold out for the same reasons, i.e., protecting their wealth and power.

Jeffries is an elite Dem establishment-aligned creature. He was picked for power by Nancy Pelosi, James Clyburn and Steny Hoyer. They are the epitome of the elite Dem establishment that helped get us into the gigantic messes we’re in right now. It was Pelosi who once seriously believed it was OK for members of congress, their families, and staff to engage in insider trading, i.e., securities fraud. She reluctantly backed away from her support when it was pointed out that insider trading was securities fraud. Pelosi came from corporate wealth, corporate thinking and natural corporate sympathy to oligarchy (a form of authoritarianism). Her innate sympathy for that kind of crime is understandable.

As is well-known, Kushner is not a neutral bipartisan policy broker. He is Trump’s son-in-law, a former senior White House official, and an influential outside adviser. His political and business interests are completely entwined with Trump and MAGA politics and policy. Kushner and his family seem to be about as honest as a $4 bill or a Trump cell phone (and this).

The problem with the Jeffries-Kushner meeting is simple, it was in secret and what it was about is unknown. We are kept in the dark. There is no public account of the meeting’s commitments, limits, or agenda. It was said to focus on “common ground” matters. However, “common ground” is often politician-speak for rigged deals the elites want kept in secret. Assertions of “common ground” can also normalize the Trump administration that elite Democrats publicly and accurately say is corrupt and authoritarian. This smells rotten. It feel like the start of a sell-out in progress.

The open question is whether the Democratic establishment will use House power to defend congressional authority, investigate corruption, enforce subpoenas, curb conflicts of interest, and protect democratic institutions, or whether it will protect elite interests, donor access, and a narrow, authoritarian conception of bipartisan governance. Jeffries must answer such questions transparently and honestly. Vague assurances coming from the old Dem establishment about finding common ground are not remotely close to reassuring. That “explanation” is deeply troubling and not close to convincing.

Q1: Is distrust of the Dem establishment, Pelosi and Jeffries for example, coupled with MAGA’s overt authoritarianism and corruption, probably why there is rising power centered on replacing capitalism with true socialism?

Q2: Do you believe that reasonable compromise is necessary for a democracy to function reasonably well, while refusal to compromise based on political power alone is the epitome of authoritarianism, e.g., MAGA authoritarianism?

Q3: Is it plausible that reasonable compromise replaced only with finding common ground amounts to a reasonably functional form of democracy?

Info sources:

What The Word ‘Compromise’ Really Means — Reporter Leslie Stahl said governing means compromising. House speaker John Boehner replied that it means “finding common ground.” When pressed, he said, “I reject the word.”

Boehner: ‘I Reject The Word’ CompromiseBOEHNER: I made it clear I am not going to compromise on my principles, nor am I going to compromise the will of the American people. STAHL: What are you saying? You’re saying, “I want common ground, but I’m not gonna compromise.” I don’t understand that. I really don’t. BOEHNER: When you say the word “compromise,” a lot of Americans look up and go, “Uh oh, they’re gonna sell me out.” And so finding common ground, I think, makes more sense.

The Mindsets of Political Compromise — In this analysis, political compromise is seen as necessary for democratic governance to exist. It describes how permanent campaigning and unreasonable distrust make compromise difficult, often impossible.

Compromise and Democracy: How They Get Along — John Stuart Mill: “an indispensable requisite in the practical conduct of politics is the readiness to compromise, a willingness to concede something to opponents and to shape good measures so as to be as little offensive as possible to persons of the opposite view”.

Friday, August 21, 2026

Status update on what Trump and MAGA are delivering

Context

Trump and MAGA elites with their authoritarian, kleptocratic Project 2025 blueprint have been power long enough to start assessing what they are delivering. Not surprisingly, their product is broken promises for us and the public interest and a vast cornucopia of benefits for the rich and powerful people and allied business interests. The broken promises were necessary to put MAGA’s wealth and power movement in power, so there’s no surprise in what has been delivered. The cornucopia of benefits to the rich and powerful include gutted protections and loss of vast power for consumers, workers and the environment, with vast wealth and power gains for allied elite MAGA authoritarians and kleptocrats.

Of course, we’re not yet in a full blown kleptocratic dictatorship-oligarchy-Christian nationalist theocracy. But those are the main goals that Trump and MAGA elites are clearly working to attain in their ruthless quest for more wealth and power. The elite MAGA mindset is elitist, kleptocratic, and authoritarian. Most of the MAGA rank and file mindset is, more or less, the opposite of that. With their relentless demagoguery, lies, slanders, crackpottery, bigotry and irrational emotional manipulation, MAGA elites have successfully deceived, manipulated and betrayed most of the rank and file.

Some of what has been delivered

A NYT opinion piece, Trump’s Broken Promises, in 11 Charts, lays out some of what he and MAGA elites have delivered. This only scratches the surface. However, is it exemplary of MAGA’s overall authoritarian-kleptocrat wealth and power project. These are some of the delivered goods:

Q: Can widespread false beliefs among the MAGA rank and file about what they falsely believe they support vs what they rationally support a belief that their ignorance grounded in MAGA deceit constitutes an existential threat to secular democracy, the even-handed rule of law and civil liberties that MAGA elites target for elimination or major scaling back?

Info sources:

Democratic Backsliding Reaches Western Democracies, with U.S. Decline “Unprecedented”

Project 2025 — (the blueprint includes dedicated chapters on gutting or neutering the EPA, Labor Department, Treasury, CFPB, FTC, SEC, FCC, and Federal Election Commission, and reorienting their missions from service to the public interest to service to elite people and allied special interests)

The People’s Guide to Project 2025What we discovered was a systemic, ruthless plan to undermine the quality of life of millions of Americans, remove critical protections and dismantle programs for communities across the nation, and prioritize special interests and ideological extremism over people. From attacking overtime pay, student loans, and reproductive rights, to allowing more discrimination, pollution, and price gouging, those behind Project 2025 are preparing to go to incredible lengths to create a country only for some, not for all of us.

Heritage Foundation

Strategic anti-corruption communications: Guidance for behavior change interventions

Congressional Budget Office: Distributional Effects of Public Law 119-21The changes in resources will not be evenly distributed among households. The agency estimates that, in general, resources will decrease for households toward the bottom of the income distribution, whereas resources will increase for households in the middle and toward the top of the income distribution.

How Politicized Prosecutions Undermine the Rule of LawThe U.S. Department of Justice is the American people’s law firm. Traditionally independent from the political motivations of any given administration, the Justice Department is supposed to defend the rule of law without prejudice and protect the rights of all Americans. It is not the president’s personal law firm and should not be used for politicized prosecutions. But since starting his second term in office, President Trump has aimed his animus at political opponents through the Justice Department by threatening arrests, ordering unwarranted investigations and prosecutions, and jeopardizing military retirements.

The Department of Justice’s Broken Accountability System

Congressional Research Service: Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) and Related Nutrition Programs in P.L. 119-21: An Overview

Saturday, August 15, 2026

Things most Americans want from politics but mostly don't get

When one looks at poll data from over recent years, a number of things most Americans claim to want come up. By and large, they get these things either partially or somewhat, just a little, or not at all. Some things Americans want and have to some extent are subject to being taken away by some or all of the federal government (courts, president, executive agencies, or congress) or by state governments. Abortion and reasonable gun safety laws are two examples of fading rights most Americans want but don't universally have. 




Dems vs Trump & MAGA
On the 23-item list, Democrats are usually much closer to majority public preferences than Trump/MAGA policy. Of course, the Dems don't have enough power to enact any of the favored policies most Americans say they want. As long as Dems stay out of power, average Americans much have less chance of getting more of what they want. 

The matter of what many Americans believe they are getting or not getting is a different issue. Millions of Americans sincerely believe they are getting various things they want from politics, while in fact that is false. Often the opposite is true. That is a well-documented phenomenon in modern American politics.

Between the two big parties, the differences are greatest on voting access, guns, abortion, immigration, citizenship, and due-process, paid leave/child care, health coverage, cannabis, global warming, and anti-corruption rules. For all of those issues, Trump and MAGA are bitterly opposed to what most Americans say they want. 

Now that is not to say that Trump and MAGA openly claim to be opposed to those things. For the most part, their demagoguery, lies, crackpottery, and irrational emotional manipulation indicate that they support those things. That is a major source of beliefs that tens of millions of Americans sincerely but falsely believe to be true.

That's just part of the human condition. In politics, many people can be terribly deceived, manipulated and betrayed. But, there's no law against it.

Q: What convincing evidence is there, if any, that the Dem Party is generally more opposed to what most Americans say they want than Trump and MAGA elite politics and policy have delivered since 2017? 


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Thursday, August 13, 2026

Social democracy vs. democratic socialism

After recent primary election results, it's hard to ignore the concept of social-something or another rampaging around in the Dem Party. 

As usual and expected, Trump and MAGA demagoguery are spewing tons of toxic mental miasma about communism in the Dem Party. MAGA's tippy-top best hyperbole and lies attacks are trying to make the liberal social-whatever sound like a horrific, imminent overwhelming catastrophe. No surprise in any of that moral rot. 

MSM reporting like this, New CNBC Generation Lab poll shows almost half of 18- to 34-year-olds favor democratic socialism, is becoming more prominent. Apparently, most of those folks have a very negative view of the American economy and capitalism generally. 


Social democracy vs. democratic socialism
Social democrats support the concept of social democracy. Modern social democracy evolved from a movement seeking a peaceful transition to actual socialism into a politics that generally accepts a regulated capitalist mixed economy with significant public welfare. These people want much better regulation of capitalism than what the GOP has been arguing for since the 1960s, and what Trump and MAGA policy have been delivering since they came into power in 2017.

By contrast, democratic socialists are real socialists. This group wants a democratically run socialist economy, including abolishment of capitalism, not just regulation of it. This group has completely given up on capitalism, and they want socialism to replace it. That's true radicalism. They want public ownership of assets used to produce services and goods to insure that they serve the public interest before serving wealthy people and entities and their special interests. 

Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) elected officials or candidates are generally aligned with the DSA’s stated premise, which is that working people should run the economy and society democratically to meet human needs rather than generate profits for a few. Apparently a growing portion of Americans find that appealing (but some of us do not).
 


Policy overlaps
Policy overlap between the two groups is huge. In general, both social democrats and democratic socialists want things like (1) universal or near-universal health coverage, often by Medicare expansion, a public option, or single-payer insurance, (2) stronger labor unions by easier organizing, penalties for union busting, sectoral bargaining, wage floors, and public-sector labor rights, (3) progressive taxation, expanded refundable tax credits, Social Security and Medicare protection, paid leave, child care, and affordable higher education, (4) investment and industrial policy that protects the environment, coupled with supporting labor standards and public infrastructure, and (5) aggressive antitrust, consumer regulation, financial rules, and public provision in selected areas.

Polling indicates that most Americans mostly support those policy goals. The Democratic Party platform itself is fundamentally aligned with those policy goals. The Dem Party still does not support full social ownership of the economy. The Dem Party supports reconstructing labor bargaining power and decommodifying or subsidizing some necessities (health care, shelter, education, water, mobility) while retaining a predominantly a private-enterprise economy. 

Obviously, MAGA elites and Trump oppose all of it, despite their gaslighting propaganda telling us they support the little guy and his concerns. By now it is crystal clear that MAGA propaganda is a huge pile of . . . . .

Big stinking pile of MAGA propaganda
about working for the little guy


Policy differences
There are big differences between the two groups. Democratic socialists support major changes like (1) worker-owned or worker-governed firms, (2) public, municipal, cooperative, or social ownership in essential sectors, typically energy, transit, housing, finance, health care, and broadband, (3) public banking and democratic control over investment, (4) social housing that is permanently outside speculative private markets, (5) a greater role for democratic planning, especially in climate transition and essential goods, and (6) universal programs for wealth redistribution, and as a means of reducing people's dependency on employers and markets.

That's real socialism. Those people aren't messing around with capitalism any more. The reasons for that level of discontent are obvious. MAGA and trickle down economics mostly trickles wealth and power up to elites and allied special interests. In the process, most of get shafted and are left in a grumpy mood.

Oats are natural resources, means of production, control of money and finance, the horse is the elites and special interests, the emoji is what it looks like, and we are the sparrow

A critically important point: American democratic socialism is not the same as Soviet-style state socialism. The American theory emphasizes pluralist democracy, civil liberties, decentralized or mixed forms of social ownership, and worker/community governance. By contrast with the USSR, which substitutes state bureaucrats for private owners, keeping nearly all of the citizenry in crappy, permanently shafted conditions. MAGA demagogues routinely lie about this critical distinction.


Where or what is the Dem Party establishment in all of this?
 The Dem establishment is heterogenous, reflecting the bigger tent it lives in compared to the GOP. It is composed of mostly of wall street Democrats or business- and finance-friendly liberals, labor liberals or New Deal liberals, civil-rights and rights-based liberals, and state and local party machines.

The Dem establishment is reasonably described as conventional social liberalism. That means market-friendly capitalism with targeted benefits, anti-discrimination law, limited regulation, and incremental reform when needed. Social democracy is generally to the left of that. Democratic socialism is further left than that.




Q1: Does it feel as if the Dem Party establishment is too timid, conservative and cautious to adequately deal with the aggression and corrupt power of Trump, MAGA elites and their brand of brutal political warfare?

Q2: To what extent is the rise of American style socialism on the left the fault of Trump and MAGA party politics and policies, with their failures to deliver for the little guy -- mostly their fault, some, a little, or none at all?


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