Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass. Most people are good.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Wednesday, September 16, 2026

Regarding the US-Israel relationship

Israeli propaganda usually says that evidence-based criticism of Israel 
or AIPAC, its political operations arm in the US, is antisemitism 


Ever since Israel became a nation, the US heavily supported it. For decades, Israel received more foreign aid each year than any other country, about $3 billion/year until 2019, then about $3.8 billion/year or more after that. In fiscal year 2024, the most recent fully-reported year, Israel received $6.82 billion, the most of any country. In three years, 2022, 2023 and probably 2025, Ukraine got significantly more than Israel. Other than that, Israel is #1!

US military aid to Israel

A NYT article, Trump Approves $2.8 Billion Arms Sale to Israel, Including 40,000 One-Ton Bombs, discusses a new US weapons package for Israel. As usual, the MSM typically does a piss poor job of reporting necessary context. In this case, the headline says its a sale of bombs. The real reality is that US taxpayers are paying for the bombs. The United States will use public funds to finance Israel’s purchase of ~$2.8 billion in U.S.-made munitions. Presumably due to the MSM’s heavy bias in favor of Israel, that inconvenient little detail is buried in the article like this: “The United States provides Israel $3.8 billion a year in base military aid, including $3.3 billion in financing that Israel uses mainly to purchase U.S. weapons—including the recently proposed bomb sale”.

To be clear and precise, the NYT’s framing of a “$2.8 billion sale to Israel” headline is not a neutral shorthand. Calling taxpayer-financed bombs a “sale to Israel” is formally accurate but substantively deceptive. By omitting that US military-financing grants provide the money Israel uses to purchase US weapons, including 40,000 1-ton bombs, the NYT presents a taxpayer-financed gift as a commercial transaction. This is not a commercial transaction. It is direct military aid we pay for. In the context of the MSM’s long-term pattern of euphemisms and omissions that favor Israel, it is reasonable to infer this deceptive framing is an intentional editorial practice. Sanitized reporting loaded with euphemisms is works to shield all kinds of American taxpayer support for Israel from public understanding and scrutiny.

The useful idiot ally

Despite the staggering amount of decades of US financial, military, diplomatic, scientific, commercial, and every other kind of aid, Israel typically treats the US like an idiot and an enemy. We help Israel, a tiny country with a small economy and a population of less than 10 million. In return, Israel often treats the US badly or worse. Don’t believe it? Well, here’s some evidence.

Occasionally, Israel acts in ways adverse to US interests, including confirmed espionage and very hard-edged domestic political advocacy. Although AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) is an American lobbying organization, not an Israeli government agency, it acts in close coordination to the Israeli government. AIPAC uses a mirage of independence from Israel to claim its electoral activity is legal should not be equated with espionage or proof that Israel influences US policy. That’s a load of manure. Israel absolutely does influence US policy. AIPAC functions as a foreign agent, but the US government is so corrupted by American Jewish money, a/k/a/, free speech, that AIPAC has never been claimed to be a foreign agent.

Given the documented scale of pro-Israel political spending, the electoral leverage it creates, a long record of resistance to treating AIPAC as a foreign agent, and the organization’s sustained service to Israeli state interests, it is common sense, in the ordinary evidentiary sense, to infer that political money helps protect AIPAC from scrutiny and regulation as the foreign agent it actually is.

Source – Note the focus on primaries where each dollar of “free speech” has more value

Also, (1) Israel spies on the US, and (2) Israel sometimes (usually?) undermines, delays, and acts contrary to US-backed Palestinian peace, ceasefire, and two-state proposals.

Q1: If one sees what Israel is doing in Gaza and/or the West Bank as genocide, is the US also guilty of genocide by providing weapons and ammo, e.g., 40,000 1-ton bombs?

Q2: Is Israel America’s friend, enemy, or something else or unknowable? Is the US a useful idiot in relation to Israel?

Some info sources:

Which countries receive the most U.S. foreign aid?

What countries receive the most foreign aid from the US?

U.S. Foreign Assistance By Country

U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel: Overview and Developments since October 7, 2023

AMERICAN ISRAEL PUBLIC AFFAIRS COMMITTEE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEECoverage dates 01/01/2025 to 07/31/2026 Total Contributions: $47,779,957.99

AIPAC didn’t always spend on campaigns. Now it faces criticism over money in politics

AIPAC, One of the Biggest Spenders on U.S. Elections, Faces Its Biggest Test

Israel: Background and Relations with the United StatesIn November 1985, Jonathan Pollard, a civilian U.S. naval intelligence employee, and his wife were charged with selling classified
documents to Israel. Four Israeli officials also were indicted
.

Jonathan Pollard, Spy for Israel, Gets Hero’s Welcome From Netanyahu: ‘You’re Home’

CIA: POLLARD’S LIFE TERM SEEN AS WARRANTED

Portugal says Israel undermining Palestinian state through settlement expansion

Why Israeli tenders for illegal E1 West Bank settlement prompted outrage

Tuesday, September 15, 2026

Normalizing extreme violence and cruelty by playing on fear & bigotry

What happened in 1947-1948?


Context
This post is about the subtle power of dark free speech. That includes demagoguery, propaganda, lies, slanders, crackpot reasoning, and irrational emotional manipulations such as appeals to bigotry, racism or intolerance, false or exaggerated allegations of threats by out-groups, dehumanizing hate, etc.


How the Israeli government pulls it off 
What Israel is doing in Gaza and the West Bank is horrible. The violence fits the definition of genocide. Genocide is is one or more specified acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a protected human group. That includes mass killings, war, and severe oppression. Bad as it is, the Israeli government has normalized the horror using years of sophisticated, focused propaganda. The propaganda has been a amazingly successful in view of the ongoing horrors. How is that possible?

An opinion in the NYT, Israel’s Elimination Project, describes the situation in the West Bank in depressing detail. It was written by by Yuli Novak, executive director of the human rights organization B’Tselem. Ms. Novak focuses on how such horrific violence is spun into highly effective narratives of something unpleasant but necessary for safety and self-defense. The horror is morally justified and sanctified by narratives of threats, real, fake or exaggerated.

The opinion describes West Bank home burnings and demolition, uprooting of communities, killings of children, blocked roads, aerial bombardment, widespread destruction, mass displacement, and official assertions of Jewish supremacy in all of it. The package includes violence and intimidation, movement restrictions, economic strangulation, destruction of Palestinian social and political life, and ethnic cleansing coupled with territorial takeover.

For many or most Israelis, years of Israeli propaganda has effectively made the reality of demolished homes, forced expulsions, social destruction and settler violence as necessary or natural. What Israel is doing to Palestinians is not seen as genocide or merely unjust domination. It is propagandized as morally justified self-defense. The actuality of (1) violent domination was normalized and justified as “security,” (2) forced dispossession via settler colonialism or occupation was turned into “settlement”, and (3) large-scale West Bank violence was softened into comforting “self-defense”. 

Novak argues that Israeli political language manipulates and distorts the situation by dehumanizing Palestinians, collapsing all of them into a threat. Violence is justified to control and oppress the entire population. Novak argues that is how apartheid works. Novak writes:
The politics have shifted over time, but the underlying logic has remained the same: Israel has preserved a political order that places Jews above Palestinians in rights, power and control over the land.

Happy-face Jewish soldier and Palestinian woman


MAGA propaganda compared with Israeli propaganda
There are differences and similarities. The similarity is with mind manipulation using dark free speech. Both MAGA and Israeli propaganda (1) use the law as partisan weapon, (2) make exceptional, exaggerated security claims, (3)cast unwarranted dehumanizing suspicion on whole groups, (4) attack democratic mechanisms of accountability so there is little to no way to punish law-breakers for their crimes, and (5) normalization of violence, oppression, and intolerance through carefully chosen softening language.
The central MAGA-Israeli government commonality is authoritarian legalism. Both retain elections, courts, statutes, police, and administrative processes, but they redirect them to protect preferred in-groups, punish or marginalize out-groups, and insulate leaders or allied power centers from accountability. 

The Israeli government has conned much or most of Israeli society into believing narratives as false as most the narratives that MAGA routinely uses against Americans. The mindsets are authoritarian, supremacist and generally very much alike. What differs greatly is circumstances. The two operate with different scales and kinds of coercion. 

In the West Bank, coercion is physical and violent. In the US, MAGA coercion is still mostly a matter of mental manipulation to con the American people into a slew of false beliefs about things important for their power and protections. Trump and MAGA elites have not yet crossed a threshold from mostly poison propaganda to mostly physical force. That's the big difference.

Q: Are Israeli and MAGA propaganda and mindsets significantly similar and comparable, even if the methods, Israeli physical violence and propaganda vs MAGA propaganda, are significantly different? If not, what is the evidence for that?


Some info sources: 
The Uses and Abuses of Language in Israel’s War on Palestinians -- Israel and its allies have deliberately crafted language not only to justify their actions but also to persuade taxpaying publics at home and abroad of their moral correctness.
Jews have historical ties to Palestine. Israel is still a settler-colonial project -- For many supporters of Israel, this ["settler colonialism"] is a difficult characterization to accept, in part because they see it as imposing a rigid division: The Palestinians are natives, the Israelis are settlers.
The Elimination Project: Israel’s Systematic Dismantling of Palestinian Collective Life in the West Bank -- Since the current Israeli government took office at the end of 2022, and even more so since October 2023, Israel has dramatically escalated its assault on all aspects of Palestinian life in the West Bank.
THE PALESTINE QUESTION: A BRIEF HISTORY -- ..... except for the Crusader interregnum, Palestine was ruled by Arabs and then by Turks for over 1,300 years following the Byzantine era. The population of Palestine was mostly Semitic Arab, both Moslem and Christian. There were also small numbers of Semitic Jews. Both the Arabs and the Ottoman Turks accorded the Jews the right to continue to worship and to keep alive the Jewish spiritual link with Palestine.

Monday, September 14, 2026

Can a modern liberal democracy deliver enough to survive?


A a democracy can be dying long before it is dead. Democracy is fragile and often disappointing. It leaves political outcomes open to influence by the human motives that have always shaped every other political institution for millennia, e.g., self-interest, self-identity, status, fear, tribe loyalty, biases, moral values, greed, etc.

One of democracy's virtues is that it does not require people to believe that their rulers are virtuous or well-meaning. Imperfectly, democracy is designed to allow for reactionary public responses when their rulers are too corrupt, cruel or authoritarian. When that happens, democratic systems then imperfectly try to divide power, expose misconduct, protect criticism and people's rights, and allow peaceful correction. But when democracy-protective mechanisms fail, special interest money always tries hard to overwhelm the public interest. Unless stopped by the public, that inevitably moves government toward some form of authoritarianism usually accompanied by a lot of bigotry and corruption often amounting to kleptocracy.

But when a democracy is robust and functioning well, it provides the tools the public needs to fight back against a bad elite. That's better than just leaving people to simply hope that a better elite will govern well in the future. 

Democracy should be judged as an ongoing contest between private power and public control. It's not a one-time system that accurately discovers and serves the public interest or general welfare. Democracy is sick and dying when its protective institutions weaken too much. 

Right now, our democracy is sick and dying. Weak campaign-finance and disclosure rules make it hard to impossible to know who is financing special interest political influence and power. Polarized or captured media reduce the public’s ability to assess competing claims on the basis of evidence and good faith sound reasoning about the evidence. Extreme inequality converts economic power into durable political power. Partisan election administration, gerrymandering, voter suppression, and barriers to voting reduce accountability of elected politicians. A politicized or corrupt civil service and judiciary undermine neutral enforcement, corrupting the rule of law, leading to tyranny. Falsely claims emergency powers and unitary executive power allows for corrupt retaliation against opposition and corrupt special interest patronage.

Conversely, democracy is more resilient where institutions make political influence visible, diffuse concentrated power, protect independent information, and give citizens multiple ways to organize.

American democracy's current status
Right now, Trump and elite MAGA demagoguery constantly tell us they are serving democracy, us and our interests. They are lying about all of that. Evidence in the public record makes clear that they are anti-democracy authoritarians (tyrants), profoundly corrupt, and actively attacking and taking away our rights and protections. Like the reality of human-caused global warming, an assertion that MAGA tyranny and corruption is a real, deadly threat to democracy and our rights is no longer rationally debatable. 

Of course, it will always be irrationally debated by some. But that does not change the underlying reality of what MAGA actually is and does. So why do people support or vote for Trump and MAGA politicians? Apparently, most sincerely believe MAGA's demagoguery and lies about how awful and evil the political opposition is, and/or how wonderful MAGA is. The demagoguery targets and manipulates people's self-interest, self-identity, status, fears, tribe loyalty, etc. Other than the power of social media to poison millions of minds, there's nothing new in MAGA's tactics compared to earlier tyrannies. 


It might be honorable, but can it defend itself?


How to judge what people want
How can our democracy be saved? Maybe it can't. But if it still can, would looking to majority public opinion on a some major issues make a meaningful difference? Maybe. 

What do most Americans say they want? Polls say that most want less corruption in government, less special interest power, solid border control, control of cost of living, stable jobs that provide reasonable incomes, defense and maintenance of democracy, with free and fair elections, clean air and water with reasonable environmental protections, universal background checks and extreme-risk (“red flag”) in gun safety laws, legal abortion access in most cases, paid family and medical leave, and government power to negotiate drug prices.  

The only issues where MAGA has delivered is border control. All the other issues most Americans say they want are either not happening or are worsening under MAGA tactics and policies. And for border control, MAGA border policy has imposed serious rule-of-law and democratic costs. MAGA border policy treats statutory limits, due process, and court orders as obstacles to be evaded. The high costs that arguably outweigh gains. In other words, border control could have been done more humanely, with less damage, probably at lower cost. Simply put, MAGA border policy by illegal, indiscriminate, or court-defying methods is anti-rule-of-law, which is anti-democracy.    

Q1: Given how powerful and mind-poisoning demagoguery coupled with social media is, can democracy and the rule of law deliver well enough to enough people to sustain itself, or has the human species reached a tipping point where democracy and a principled rule of law is no longer possible to withstand authoritarianism and corruption of politics?

Q2: Other than border control, is it reasonable to characterize Trump and MAGA politics and policy as generally failing on major policies or working against them, to deliver what most Americans say they want? What is evidence that characterization is more false than true?

Q3: For border control, is it reasonable to characterize Trump and MAGA politics and policy as causing more damage to democracy and the rule of law than necessary? What is evidence that characterization is more false than true?


Some info sources: 
Americans See Health Care Costs, Deficit, Inflation as Big Problems Facing the Nation -- Share of those who say illegal immigration is a very big problem has dropped since the start of Trump’s second term
2026: The public’s priorities and expectations -- The American public’s priorities for the government in 2026 span a wide variety of issues from economic and personal finance issues to policy areas like health care and immigration to concerns about how well Washington is functioning.
More Americans Think U.S. Doing Too Little on Environment -- Majorities rate environmental quality negatively and say it is getting worse 
To reduce gun violence, the public supports several gun control measures -- Most adults remain in favor of universal background checks, red flag laws, and semi-automatic rifle bans.

Friday, September 11, 2026

Learning to see how demagoguery and propaganda poisons minds


Context

Free speech laws protect almost all demagoguery and propaganda. That empowers demagogues and propagandists (D&Ps) use the human condition as their playground manipulate and persuade minds to get what they want. There are all kinds of D&Ps. Some work in the realm of politics, while others concentrate on religion, commerce, or social tradition. Free speech law usually protects speech, not people. Examples of speech laws protecting people include making false advertising and defamation illegal. Those exceptions are narrow and generally ineffective. That leaves D&Ps almost completely free to deceive, distract, deflect, confuse, sow unwarranted doubt, lie, irrationally emotionally manipulate, and assert crackpot reasoning to get what they want.

Crackpot reasoning includes asserting logic flaws. Asserting crackpottery is a common mind-poisoning tactic. There are many kinds of logic flaws in crackpottery, but common ones D&Ps use in political speech include (1) ad hominem attacks (insults), (2) false dilemma assertions where only 2 choices are presented when there are others, (3) appeal to fear that uses frightening imagery, predictions, or threats as a substitute for evidence (“criminal illegal immigrants”), (4) diversion fallacies such as straw man (misrepresenting an opponent’s position to make it easier to attack and refute) and red herring (asserting something irrelevant to divert attention from the question that needs an answer, e.g., it is especially useful for D&Ps and politicians facing a damaging fact) arguments, and (5) bandwagon appeal, which asserts popularity, momentum, or alleged majority sentiment as proof that a belief or policy is true or right (“Everybody knows the election was stolen”). This peer-reviewed post by the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy, Fallacies, describes fallacies in easy to read language.

An example

It takes some time and effort to learn how to better defend ones-self from D&P’s poisoned free speech. One way to do that is to take some D&P content and break it down into individual bit of poison.

A MAGA demagogue’s poison response to evidence that MAGA politicians are generally not trustworthy: Opining in the modern sense is often a transparent attempt to make ‘the other guy’ look bad through nuance and assumptive tale-making. One can’t really blame the opiner; there are crowds out there waiting to lap this stuff up, or so he would insist. One thing is certain: ‘they too shall pass’; I mean, who remembers Jim Acosta? Shakespeare knew what he was saying when he opined that “Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing”, me included. But at least you don’t hear me railing against the moon; I just relish pulling the odd chain or two.

Analysis of the demagogue’s poison bits: 1. “Opining in the modern sense…” — That is an insult that falsely recasts the OP’s evidence-based argument as mere opinion backed by no evidence. This deflects from the evidence the OP presented of MAGA politician mendacity.

2. “make ‘the other guy’ look bad” That attributes a partisan motive to the writer, but even if that were true, it still does not make the evidence false. This is an ad hominem attack that substitutes for a reasoned or evidence-based rebuttal.

3. “crowds … waiting to lap this stuff up” That is a direct insult to anyone who would agree with the OP’s argument about MAGA politicians. This directly insults anyone who more or less agree with the OP’s evidence, reasoning and conclusions. As usual, there is not one shred of counter-evidence or any reasoned argument about why the evidence is unconvincing or the reasoning flawed.

4. “they too shall pass … who remembers Jim Acosta?” This is more insulting deflection. Whether a journalist or commentator remains famous has no bearing whatsoever on whether the targeted political actors are trustworthy.

5. “I just relish pulling the odd chain or two” That is pure demagogue insult. This comment acts as a convenient escape hatch. It allows the demagogue to make stupid, insulting insinuations without taking responsibility for defending them. Worse than that, this comment concedes that the demagogue’s purpose is provocation, not respectful or serious disagreement.

Conclusion

Yes, politics and the human mind are more complicated than most people understand. Politics isn’t entertainment. The mind isn’t a computer or logic machine. It takes time and effort to start to put one’s mind in a more informed, more rational mode of self-defense against D&P’s mind-poisoning dark arts.

Q1: Is it the case that American politics is now a bitter war to the death of deeply corrupt elitist authoritarianism against public democracy, the rule of law and our civil liberties, where authoritarian elites are fighting tooth and claw for more wealth and power at our expense?

Q2: Is it logical to believe that when people vote on the basis of false beliefs that D&Ps have poisoned their minds with, their power to decide on the basis of facts, robust truths and good faith sound reasoning has been taken from them and given to the elites and special interests the D&Ps are advocating for? If not, why not?