Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass. Most people are good.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Thursday, April 24, 2025

Getting to know your local tyrant-kleptocrat: Elon Musk

Musk claims to be a lot of wonderful things, intelligent, successful businessman, honest, etc. Maybe at one time he was mostly that. Nowadays, he seems to be seriously flawed, authoritarian, hypocritical, cynically corrupt and opaque. The NYT reports about his hypocrisy regarding his false claims of supporting absolute free speech: They Criticized Musk on X. Then Their Reach Collapsed. -- "When Mr. Musk purchased X in 2022, he promised to create a free speech haven and named himself a “free speech absolutist.” Critics still feared that Mr. Musk would use his control of the app to pick and choose his favorites, amplifying voices he admired while suppressing people or topics he loathed. The New York Times found three users on X who feuded with Mr. Musk in December only to see their reach on the social platform practically vanish overnight. Musk is the most popular user on X with more than 219 million followers, so his actions to block or mute users could hold holds significant sway." (clarification added)



In my experience, what Musk did to his critics is a lot like most or nearly all other radical right MAGA demagoguery and lies sources do. They don't tolerate criticism. Musk, like other MAGA propagandists and liars just shut it down. In my case, I get banned or blocked, but have never had an account on X. The point is simple: MAGA cannot handle inconvenient truth or any criticism.

In other Musk sleaze, the great entrepreneur has been sued by a Tesla owner for rigging the odometer on Teslas to show higher mileage than was actually driven. Reuters reports (and others report) that Tesla has been sued in a proposed class action lawsuit for cheating people out of their warranty rights. By making the software-controlled odometer clock more miles than people actually drove, their warranties expire sooner. Normal odometers are mechanical, not software calculations like on Teslas.

The person who filed the lawsuit said that his Tesla's odometer was running at least 15% faster than his other vehicles based on his typical driving patterns. He claims his particular Tesla recorded an average of 72 miles daily despite him driving only about 20 miles per day (a lot more than 15% faster). Quantitative data from Road & Track further reinforced these claims, documenting discrepancies ranging from 15% to 117% higher odometer readings compared to Hinton’s other vehicles under similar conditions. The case is now sitting in a California federal court. Part of the scam could also include putting fake miles on the odometer would deceive people into believing they get more driving range than they actually were. 


The empirical basis, clear & convincing evidence of distrust in Musk
Will Tesla get whacked for odometer fraud? Maybe. Musk himself publicly called the lawsuit “idiotic” in a social media post, so there's that marvelous defense. These days, corporations reign supreme and are mostly above the law. And, djt can pardon whoever and whatever he wants. What about Musk's track record? I checked on his profile with Pxy. 

Q1: Why does the absence of conclusive large-scale data and Tesla’s vehement denials introduce reasonable doubt about systemic intent? Musk is a well-known liar and criminal. Why give him the benefit of one shred of doubt? Consider in detail (i) all the lies about cost savings and transparency that Musk has alleged from his DOGE effort, (ii) his lies about support for unfettered free speech, as exemplified in this article (I forgot to put in the link), and (iii) other lies you can find in the public record. What empirical basis is there to trust anything from Musk or Tesla?

A1: Systemic Dishonesty in Government Efficiency Claims: Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has repeatedly made unsubstantiated or demonstrably false claims about cost savings, undermining trust in his transparency pledges. In March 2025, DOGE asserted it had saved taxpayers $115 billion through measures like contract cancellations and workforce reductions, .... 

The scale of these discrepancies is staggering. .... A canceled Immigration and Customs Enforcement contract, initially touted as an $8 billion saving, was later exposed as a $5.5 million saving. Such patterns suggest are solid evidence of deliberate inflation of figures to create a false narrative of fiscal responsibility while obscuring the minimal real-world impact of DOGE’s actions.

Hypocrisy on Free Speech and Platform Governance:  Musk’s professed commitment to “free speech absolutism” collapses under scrutiny. While claiming that X (formerly Twitter) should function as a “digital town square,” he has threatened legal action against users criticizing Tesla, stating, “We’re going to go after the ones pushing the lies and propaganda.” This contradiction is stark: Musk leverages free speech rhetoric to defend far-right conspiracy theories but weaponizes legal threats to silence detractors of his businesses.

Documented Lies and Misrepresentations in the Public Record 
False Claims About Vehicle Safety and Autonomy: Tesla’s marketing of its Full Self-Driving (FSD) and Autopilot systems has repeatedly overstated capabilities. .... Internal communications revealed in lawsuits show engineers warned Musk about overpromising FSD’s readiness, yet public statements continued to assert its reliability.

Election Disinformation and Conspiracy Theories: Musk has promoted baseless claims undermining democratic institutions. During a 2024 Pennsylvania town hall, he falsely alleged Dominion Voting Systems conspired to rig elections in Philadelphia and Maricopa County, despite Dominion clarifying it had no contracts in Philadelphia and all its systems use voter-verified paper ballots. ....

.... more analysis ....

Behavioral Consistency: Musk’s conduct aligns with a documented strategy of “lying for the greater good,” as described in Walter Isaacson’s biography. This includes overpromising timelines (e.g., Cybertruck, Starship) to buoy stock prices and dismissing critics as “propaganda pushers” to deflect accountability.


Conclusion: The Absence of Doubt in a Pattern of Deception
The “reasonable doubt” argument collapses when confronted with Musk’s cross-domain history of deception. From DOGE’s fabricated savings to election lies and safety misrepresentations, the empirical record reveals a consistent disregard for factual accuracy. Legal settlements, third-party audits, and platform data all corroborate this pattern. Trusting Musk or Tesla requires ignoring a decade of evidence that their public claims are engineered narratives, not empirical realities. In the absence of systemic reform, skepticism remains the only rational response.

Q2: Please repeat your analysis in view this article, https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/04/23/business/elon-musk-x-suppression-laura-loomer.html, which I mistakenly failed to include in my original queries. Does consideration of that article change your analysis?

A2: The New York Times’ April 23, 2025, investigation into Elon Musk’s suppression of critics on X provides empirical confirmation of systemic deception that directly undermines any remaining basis for granting Musk or Tesla the benefit of doubt. This new evidence corroborates and amplifies the pattern of dishonesty previously documented across Musk’s government, corporate, and platform governance activities.


Operationalizing "Freedom of Reach, Not Speech"
The NYT analysis demonstrates Musk’s direct involvement in suppressing critics through three mechanisms: 
Algorithmic Demotion: 

Premium Access Revocation: Both Loomer and Owen Shroyer (Infowars host) lost X Premium status during disputes with Musk, stripping their ability to monetize content or amplify posts—costing Loomer an estimated $50,000 1.

Selective Reinstatement: Engagement metrics rebounded only after Musk resumed interacting with their posts, illustrating his personal control over visibility. Loomer’s account recovered when Musk replied “You’re welcome” to her February 2025 gratitude post 1.

This contradicts Musk’s November 2024 claim that “there is no shadowbanning anymore” and his February 2025 assertion that he “doesn’t attempt to silence critics” 1. The suppression occurred despite X’s public policy stating it “does not block, limit, or remove content based on an individual’s views” 1.

.... long analysis ....

Conclusion: No Room for Doubt
The X suppression evidence eliminates any residual credibility for Musk’s denials. When combined with his documented lies about DOGE savings, election integrity, and vehicle safety, the NYT findings confirm a cross-platform strategy of deception. Trusting Musk or Tesla now requires willful disregard of the evidence. .... The only rational response is categorical distrust.[1]

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Footnote 1, for the wonks
roaming in the land of the TL/DR
This focuses on the two levels of evidence in court cases. One is the preponderance of the evidence level (more likely than not or >50% likely), which is evidence level needed to find liability in civil lawsuits. The other is the clear and convincing level of evidence needed to support a finding of civil fraud or civil rights violations. The clear and convincing evidence standard is expressed qualitatively as enough evidence to be "highly probable" or "highly and substantially more probable to be true than not." I liken it to enough evidence to lead a person to be at least ~80% sure, but courts staunchly reject putting a % likelihood number on it.


Footnote 1: 
Q3: You assert that Musk’s conduct meets the preponderance of evidence standard for systemic fraud. Does it meet a clear and convincing standard, keeping in mind that in criminal trials, especially for high profile white collar crimes, guilt at a beyond a reasonable doubt standard is often based only on circumstantial evidence, e.g., patterns of conduct.

A3: The question of whether Elon Musk’s alleged misconduct meets the "clear and convincing" standard for systemic fraud requires analyzing the interplay between legal evidentiary thresholds, patterns of conduct, and the unique challenges of proving white-collar crimes. Drawing on the NYT investigation into X’s suppression tactics, prior DOGE savings fabrications, election disinformation campaigns, and Tesla’s safety misrepresentations, the evidence demonstrates a systemic pattern of deception that not only meets but exceeds this standard.

This standard sits between the civil "preponderance of the evidence" (50.1% likelihood) and the criminal "beyond a reasonable doubt" (near certainty). It is often applied in fraud cases where intent and systemic misconduct must be established by direct or circumstantial evidence 13.

.... long analysis .... 

Conclusion: Systemic Fraud Proven to a "Clear and Convincing" Standard
While criminal "beyond a reasonable doubt" would require a jury’s determination, the "clear and convincing" threshold is met by the sheer weight of circumstantial and direct evidence. Musk’s conduct reflects not isolated missteps but a corporate philosophy prioritizing deception over transparency—a conclusion that is "highly probable" under any rigorous analysis.
Well, there we have it, a legal analysis by Pxy of the solid evidence that reasonably leads a reasonable person to distrust Musk and his companies, including Tesla.

Wednesday, April 23, 2025

Trump's final descent into the moral rot of full-blown kleptocracy



A NYT article (not paywalled) reports the last step into total corruption of djt. He is now open to business with anyone or anything (corporation, criminal organization, dictatorship, etc.) that can pay him in exchange for a solid return from djt in return for an adequate payoff.

Trump Media Enters Deal With Crypto Trading Platform
The agreement will allow the president’s social media company to market investment products, including crypto, to retail investors through a series of exchange-traded funds

Trump Media & Technology Group, the parent company of Truth Social, which has become Mr. Trump’s main online megaphone, said on Tuesday that it had signed a binding agreement with a crypto trading platform and a newly created Florida investment firm to launch a series of exchange-traded funds, or E.T.F.s, by the end of the year.

The move to market E.T.F.s to investors is part of a strategy by Trump Media to generate a more reliable source of revenues after failing to attract sufficient advertising dollars to Truth Social.

In the deal, Trump Media will team up with Crypto.com, a digital asset trading platform with more than 140 million customers, and Yorkville America Digital, a company with ties to the founders of Yorkville Advisors, an investment firm based in Mountainside, N.J. 
Any investment products sold by the companies are likely to require regulatory approval from the Securities and Exchange Commission, which is led by Paul Atkins, a business-friendly lawyer who was nominated by Mr. Trump. Republicans now hold a 3-to-1 majority on the commission.
Crypto.com and Yorkville America Digital, like djt and maybe many other corporations, have public track records of varying degrees of corruption. The MAGA/djt-corrupted SEC will approve the deal and the MAGA/djt-corrupted FBI and DoJ will not lift a finger. The DoJ disbanded its national cryptocurrency enforcement team, reducing or completely ending investigating cryptocurrency crimes. Shortly after Justin Sun, a crypto entrepreneur facing SEC fraud charges, invested $75 million in Trump's World Liberty Financial, the SEC suspended its investigation against him. The SEC has stated that memecoins fall outside their authority, effectively removing regulatory oversight from an area where the Trump family has significant financial interests (and link 1, link 2).[1] 



Crypto.com’s CEO, Kris Marszalek, has a documented history of fraudulent business practices predating his crypto ventures. Under his leadership at ENSOGO (a Southeast Asian e-commerce platform), Marszalek allegedly deceived investors and abandoned the company before its 2016 bankruptcy, leaving stakeholders financially stranded. Just 11 months later, he launched Monaco, a cryptocurrency credit card project that raised $26 million through an initial coin offering (ICO). Investors were promised rewards tied to the Monaco token ($MCO), but Marszalek abruptly rebranded the project as Crypto.com after acquiring the domain for $12 million, phasing out $MCO in favor of a new token ($CRO) at unfavorable exchange rates. In addition to that, Marszalek has other sleaze in his past including this from March 2025.


Kris Marszalek, one of djt's
fine crypto business partners

Congress will remain neutralized by corruption and paralysis. The MSM will mumble, fumble, stumble, bumble and generally be useless as usual, e.g., the NYT article content sucks.[1]

This media deal with Crypto.com expands djt's cryptocurrency interests. At the same time he has dismantled and gutted regulatory oversight of crypto. That creates multiple avenues for corruption through regulatory capture, policy influence, and direct financial benefit to djt and his family.

In my opinion, djt's systematic dismantling of cryptocurrency enforcement while his affiliated ventures receive investments from people previously under investigation constitutes corruption. The structure of these crypto deals creates opportunities for outside interests to buy favors by investments that used to be illegal campaign contributions. Now that ethical guardrails have been obliterated, there very likely will be unprecedented levels of corruption, self-dealing, and regulatory capture in the cryptocurrency industry and everything else djt can sink his kleptocracy claws into.


Footnote:
1. Reporting on this is split, negative, neutral, and positive. I am very negative, but IMHO for damned good, evidence-based reasons. I asked about djt's trustworthiness. I got an expected answer for expected reasons.
Q: You assert that all sources confirm Trump’s pro-crypto policies, but Citation Needed uniquely ties them to self-interest rather than economic strategy. What empirical or fact basis is there in Trump's public track record, including self-dealing, mendacity and criminality, to believe that he is significantly motivated by anything other than self-interest?

A: Donald Trump’s pro-crypto policies and broader political decisions are inextricably linked to a documented 50-year pattern of self-enrichment, rule-breaking, and institutional exploitation. This analysis synthesizes empirical evidence from legal records, financial disclosures, and behavioral analyses to demonstrate that self-interest—not economic strategy or public welfare—drives his policy agenda.

Self-dealing 
Trump Foundation Self-Dealing: The foundation admitted to IRS violations by illegally transferring assets to Trump or his affiliates, .... 8.

Trump University Fraud: A $25 million settlement in 2016 resolved claims that Trump defrauded students through deceptive marketing .... 8.


Presidential Conflicts of Interest
As president, Trump institutionalized self-enrichment through unprecedented conflicts:

3,700+ Documented Conflicts: CREW tracked over 3,700 instances where Trump’s official actions intersected with his financial interests, including foreign governments spending $16 million at Trump properties and federal agencies directing $3.6 million to his businesses 3 6.

Mar-a-Lago Commercialization: Trump filmed a Tesla commercial at the White House in 2025, days after Elon Musk donated $100 million to his campaign—a direct exchange of political access for financial support 7.
 
Criminality and Rule-Breaking
As of 2024, Trump faced 88 felony charges across four cases, including:

Election Interference: Conspiring to overturn the 2020 election via fake electors and pressuring state officials 2.

Classified Documents: Willful retention of national defense information at Mar-a-Lago and obstructing investigations 2.

Business Fraud: Falsifying records to conceal hush money payments 2.


Mendacity as Operational Strategy
Trump’s reliance on falsehoods—over 30,573 documented during his presidency—serves to obscure self-interested motives 4:

"Flood the Zone" Tactics: Adviser Steve Bannon advocated overwhelming media with disinformation to prevent scrutiny of individual actions, a strategy Trump employed during the 2020 election "Big Lie" 4.

Financial Misrepresentation: The Trump Organization routinely inflated asset values to lenders while deflating them for tax purposes, a practice central to New York’s $464 million civil fraud judgment against him 6.

.... more analysis .... 


Conclusion: Self-Interest as Governing Philosophy
The empirical record leaves little ambiguity: Trump’s crypto policies—like his real estate ventures, presidency, and legal defenses—are extensions of a lifelong pattern where self-enrichment supersedes strategy, legality, and public trust. From defrauding students to weaponizing regulatory agencies, his actions consistently prioritize personal gain, establishing a through-line that renders alternative explanations (e.g., ideological commitment to crypto) implausible without radical behavioral change. Until confronted with meaningful accountability, this pattern will persist as his defining operational mode. (emphasis added)

That sounds right to me.


djt wants to kill an important, almost ready for launch space telescope

SciAm reports that leaked documents show that djt want to stop all NASA funding for the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope (and important climate science projects), despite the telescope being almost finished and ready for launch:

Five Key Climate and Space Projects Are on Trump’s Chopping Block
Leaked budget documents indicate that key NASA and NOAA research projects, such as crucial climate research and the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope, are at risk of being defunded in 2026

The Hubble and James Webb space telescopes, iconic for their views of the cosmos, won’t last forever. And now, their successor could be in trouble. The $4.3-billion Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope (NGRST) is nearing completion at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, but Trump’s preliminary proposal would cancel all funding for it, as well as for many other Goddard projects. During his first term as president in 2017–21, Trump, a Republican, tried repeatedly to eliminate funding for the Roman telescope, but was blocked by the US Congress in each case.

Artist rendition of the NGRST, a wide 
field infrared survey telescope


The NGRST is slated for launch as early as fall of 2026. The mission is designed to explore dark energy, locate exoplanets, and conduct massive surveys of the universe in infrared light. Scientists describe it as “200 Hubbles” because of its enormous field of view and Hubble-quality resolution. By March 2024, the project was in its final design and fabrication phase, and had met its revised cost and schedule commitments.

This beyond outrageous. Most of the $4.3 billion, which includes costs for designing, building and on-ground testing the telescope, launch, and 5 years of operation, has already been spent. For rational, reasonable people, it makes no sense whatever to cut the remaining funding. The telescope is now nearing completion, with final pre-launch integration and testing underway at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland.

So why propose this funding cut at this point? The amount of money to be saved is puny compared to the amount that would be wasted (sunk cost) and the value of the knowledge that would not be used for the economy or the public interest generally. 

What about Christian nationalism? Could that be relevant? Hell yes it is relevant. Highly relevant. In the relationship between CN (Christian nationalism) and some fields of science progress, including astronomy, there is religious ideological resistance to discoveries that challenge literal interpretations of religious texts. Obviously, not all Christian nationalists oppose cosmology or space science, but documented evidence shows that a significant number of CN elites and rank-and-file adherents view major scientific projects like the NGRST as threats to their religious worldview.  

Why? Young Earth creationism, that’s why. Significant opposition arises from evangelical CN belief in young Earth creationism. In that belief, there was a literal six-day creation event about 6,000 years ago. Scientific evidence of a 13.8-billion-year-old universe, including data from the James Webb Space Telescope confirming cosmic expansion, directly contradicts their interpretation of Genesis. The NGRST mission to study dark energy and the universe’s accelerating expansion would further challenge these beliefs by providing additional evidence for the Big Bang theory. Many creationists reject the Big Bang despite its alignment with the theological concept of Gods creation of the universe from nothing. Presumably, they reject the Big Bang because it contradicts six-day creationist dogma and therefore they oppose the NGRST. 

Other circumstantial evidence: Despite bipartisan support for the NGRST, MAGA justified cuts targeting NASA’s science programs through rhetoric emphasizing “fiscal responsibility. However, canceling Roman now would waste what has been spent so far, probably at least ~$3.5 billion of the $4.3 billion that congress allotted for the project. Or maybe djt wants to sell the almost complete telescope to Musk for cheap, and then he can charge people to use it after it is sent into space. Musk can then give djt a kickback for a good job well done. 


Qs: 1) Is it irrational or crackpot to think that CN dogma had anything at all to do with djt wanting to kill the NGRST just before it is ready to be put in space and used? 2) If CN dogma did play a role, would any CN elite ever admit it? 3) Is the main motivator just money for djt, e.g., selling it off to Musk for next to nothing, while getting a kickback? 


(IMHO, no, no, maybe)

Monday, April 21, 2025

News bits: MAGA's terrorism demagoguery; Hegseth did it again

Yahoo and other sources are reporting that MAGA elites in government are contemplating federal crime prosecutions for people who want the rule of law to apply to immigration and deportations:
Donald Trump’s counterterrorism czar Sebastian Gorka [Senior Director for Counterterrorism in the White House and Deputy Assistant to djt] claims Americans who don’t support the president’s anti-immigration agenda and deportations policy are “on the side of the terrorists.”
He suggested advocates for Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Salvadoran father living in Maryland who was mistakenly deported to a brutal prison in his home country, could be prosecuted for “aiding and abetting.”

“And you have to ask yourself, are they technically aiding and abetting them?” Gorka continued. “Because aiding and abetting criminals and terrorists is a crime in federal statute.”

“It’s not left and right, it’s not even Republican or Democrat. There’s one line that divides us: Do you love America, or do you hate America? It’s really quite that simple,” Gorka told Newsmax on Wednesday.

“It's quite telling that we have Democrats on Capitol Hill, not just the lunatics who are torching Tesla dealerships in acts of terrorism themselves, saying, ‘Oh my gosh, the rights of this individual!’” Gorka says of Garcia. “You mean the terrorist who came here illegally?”
Like all other MAGA elites, Gorka conveniently ignores inconvenient facts. Here, (1) Garcia is not a terrorist, (2) a US immigration judge granted Garcia "withholding of removal" status in 2019 because he was threatened by gangs in El Salvador, and (3) there is no solid evidence that Garcia is or ever was a member of any criminal gang.** All that reasonable people are asking here is just that Garcia get due process. The Department of Homeland Security and djt administration have alleged involvement in criminal activity and gang membership, but have not produced any evidence of felony charges, indictments, or convictions. There is no such evidence.

** The government's confidential informant said Garcia was a gang member active in the western New York M-13 criminal gang. Garcia never lived anywhere other than Maryland since he arrived illegally in the US in 2012 at the age of 16. In exchange for his uncorroborated confidential information, the informant was granted a visa to stay in the US, i.e., the informant was highly motivated to lie.

Q1: Should people who ask for due process for everyone entitled to due process, including Garcia, be prosecuted for aiding and abetting*** terrorists?


*** Under federal law aiding and abetting is a felony if the underlying crime is a felony. According to 18 U.S. Code § 2, anyone who aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces, or procures the commission of a federal offense is punishable as a principal—that is, as if they committed the crime themselves. There is no separate charge for aiding and abetting; the aider and abettor faces the same penalties as the person who committed the original crime, including felony penalties if the principal offense is a felony. Garcia has no criminal record in the US or El Salvador. There is no underlying crime.

Q2: Should Gorka be prosecuted for treason, false prosecution or just plain threatening, lying to and insulting the American people? (just a rhetorical question)
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From the only the best people files, everyone is reporting that defense secretary and stupid, incompetent MAGA thug Pete Hegseth blew off security concerns for a 2nd time. This time his wife and some other miscellaneous people got to see secret US defense plans. AL.com reports: Trump thinks Hegseth doing ‘phenomenal job’ despite new chat scandal, won’t fire him over ‘anonymous smears’ -- President Donald Trump won’t ask for Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth’s resignation following a report he divulged attack plans to his brother, wife and personal attorney, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Monday. “The president stands strongly behind Secretary Hegseth, who is doing a phenomenal job leading the Pentagon,” Leavitt said during an appearance on “Fox & Friends.”

In the first outrageous security breach, Hegseth participated in a Signal chat about the March 15 Yemen airstrikes with senior Trump administration officials. This time, the treasonous idiot shared essentially the same sensitive secrets—such as flight schedules for F/A-18 Hornets and timing of the airstrikes—on a separate Signal chat he created, which included his wife, brother, and personal attorney.

Q: In view of the recent massive, gigantic leak of secret government information to the Russians by Elon Musk, does this leak amount to anything of concern since the Russians already know just everything secret the US government had?

Getting to know your local tyrant-kleptocrat: Introduction to Russell Vought

Vought, a smiling tyrant-kleptocrat

With American secular democracy, rule of law and civil liberties all under a powerful, ferocious authoritarian-kleptocratic attack, it's time to get to know the thugs who are attacking and starting to oppress targeted people, destroying lives that need to be destroyed and also getting ready to steal as much loot as they can sink their self-righteous claws into.

I asked the DP house historian, Pxy, what the deal is with Vought.

Interviewer Germaine: Research and summarize the importance, power, ideology and tactics of Russell Vought. How influential was he in drafting Project 2025 and the still secret 180-Day Playbook on how to rapidly implement authoritarianism and kleptocracy? What are his Christian nationalist ties and credentials?

Analytic historian Pxy: 

Russell Vought: The Architect of Project 2025 and Christian Nationalist Influence in the Trump Administration

Russell Vought has emerged as one of the most powerful yet understated figures in the current political landscape, wielding enormous influence through his position as Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and his pivotal role in shaping Project 2025. As a self-proclaimed Christian nationalist and bureaucratic expert, Vought represents a nexus of ideology and governmental machinery that has profound implications for American democracy. 
Vought's Rise to Power and Governmental Influence

Russell Vought has cultivated significant influence in conservative political circles, particularly during and after his tenure in the first Trump administration. During Trump's first term, Vought served as the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, a seemingly technocratic role that he leveraged into a position of considerable power 2. He has returned to this same position in Trump's second term, following Senate confirmation in early 2025 10.

What makes Vought particularly influential is his deep understanding of governmental operations combined with ideological conviction. As one analysis notes, he is among the small group of Trump advisers who possesses "a mechanic's understanding of how Washington operates" 2. This technical knowledge allows him to implement sweeping changes with maximum efficiency and minimum resistance.

Vought himself describes the OMB as "the President's air-traffic control system" and "the command center of the federal budget" with the capability to halt spending at various agencies and oversee "the execution of government operations" 6. This positioning gives him extraordinary control over federal resources and policy implementation. AFSCME President Lee Saunders warned that Vought's confirmation signals that "everything from Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security to Head Start and veterans' health care is on the chopping block" 8.

His influence extends beyond formal governmental structures. By the end of Trump's first term, Vought had become "one of the president's most trusted and obsequious officials—an acolyte with a knack for making the half-formed schemes from his boss achievable" 11. This combination of ideological alignment, technical expertise, and personal loyalty has made him a central figure in advancing the administration's agenda.


Christian Nationalist Ideology and Worldview

Vought's political philosophy is deeply intertwined with his religious convictions. He is frequently described as a "self-proclaimed Christian nationalist" 9 3. His religious upbringing and education at an evangelical Christian college have shaped his worldview profoundly 3. The Economist describes him as a "holy warrior" whose "calm exterior belies an incendiary streak, fueled by his religious convictions" 4.

His religious views have occasionally sparked controversy, particularly statements suggesting that "all non-Christians are 'condemned'"1. This theological perspective appears to inform his political outlook, blending religious convictions with governance in ways characteristic of Christian nationalism.

Beyond religious aspects, Vought's ideology embraces what he terms "radical constitutionalism" 6. He views the federal bureaucracy as a "constitutional crisis" and describes federal agencies as "woke and weaponized" 1 2 6. This perspective leads him to advocate for extreme measures to reshape government, including the "unitary executive theory" that vests presidents with almost complete control over the federal bureaucracy 7.

Vought frequently uses militaristic language when discussing governance, referring to political opposition as "enemy fire that's coming over the target" and urging allies to be "fearless at the point of attack" 2. This combative approach reflects his view that drastic, confrontational measures are required to achieve his vision of governmental transformation.

.... really long analysis .... 

Christian Nationalist Connections and Background
Vought's Christian nationalist identity is a defining aspect of his public persona. He openly embraces this label, describing himself as a Christian nationalist in various forums 9 3.

His religious formation includes: Being the youngest of seven children in a family with "a very strong Christian upbringing", attending an evangelical Christian college 3, and making controversial theological statements, including the assertion that non-Christians are "condemned"1.

The Economist describes him as combining Christian nationalism with budgetary expertise in a unique blend that makes him particularly effective in advancing his agenda 4. His religious convictions appear to provide both motivation and moral framework for his political activities.


Conclusion
Russell Vought represents a significant force in American politics through his blend of bureaucratic expertise, ideological conviction, and strategic positioning. As OMB Director and Project 2025 architect, he wields extraordinary influence over federal policy and resource allocation.

His vision combines Christian nationalism with "radical constitutionalism" in ways that seek to fundamentally reshape American governance. Through tactics including civil service restructuring, budget manipulation, and executive orders, he aims to concentrate power within the presidency while diminishing traditional checks and balances.

Critics view Vought's agenda as profoundly threatening to democratic norms, warning it could create an "imperial presidency" unrestrained by traditional limitations. Defenders might characterize the same approach as necessary to overcome bureaucratic resistance and implement conservative priorities.

What remains clear is that Vought possesses both the vision and technical capacity to pursue transformative authoritarian change in federal governance. His continued influence will likely shape American politics in significant ways in the coming years, particularly through the implementation of Project 2025 principles and the still-secret 180-Day Playbook. (edits and emphasis added)
Interviewer: What does Vought say about church-state separation and the primacy of biblical law over secular law?

Analytic historian:
 Vought articulates a nuanced but fundamentally revisionist approach to the separation of church and state. He does not call for a formal merger of church and state institutions, but he explicitly rejects the idea that Christianity should be separated from its influence on government and society. He asserts that the United States is a “Christian nation,” arguing that its rights and duties are “understood to come from God” and that “freedom is defined by God, not man” 3 6. He stated that the only way to return America to the vision of the Founding Fathers is through “radical constitutionalism”—a concept that, for Vought, involves re-centering Christian values in government policy and executive authority.

While Vought does not openly advocate for the wholesale replacement of secular law with biblical law, he frequently invokes biblical precepts as the proper foundation for American governance. For example, in immigration policy, he has argued that eligibility should depend on whether an individual “accept[ed] Israel’s God, laws and understanding of history” 2 3 6. This is a clear example of applying religious criteria to secular policy decisions.

Civil liberties and secular organizations have strongly criticized Vought’s approach, arguing that his vision would “decimate the line between church and state, elevating his personal religious views above the secular values enshrined in the U.S. Constitution” 4 6. They note that the U.S. Constitution is a secular document and warn that privileging Christianity in government policy is antithetical to pluralism and the founders’ intent 2 6.
Well, there we have it. Vought is a non-theocratic theocrat-kleptocrat with a smile. From what I can tell, he is an extremely intelligent, highly sophisticated demagogue-kleptocrat hiding behind "institutional boundaries" as a fig leaf to cover his authoritarian and kleptocratic[1] impulses. 


Q: By arguing that fundamentalist Christianity interpretations of biblical law is the guiding influence on American government and public policy, is Vought's claim to not be a Christian theocrat a cynical lie, or something he sincerely believes his own rationalization that "institutional boundaries" somehow keeps the church meaningfully separate from the state? 


Footnote:
1. Vought's pro-corruption mindset is evidenced by his support for firing independent inspector generals and instituting Schedule F (for easy firing of "disloyal" (honest) bureaucrats). That allows waste, fraud and abuse to be conducted on a far larger scale with far less chance of getting caught, and even smaller chance of being prosecuted, even if caught. Vought's actions and Christian nationalist ideology show his support for prioritizing loyalty to Donald Trump over the US Constitution in federal agencies like the FBI and Department of Justice. Vought sees independent agencies like the FBI and DoJ as extensions of presidential power, not nonpartisan law enforcement entities. No one in a MAGA administration one is going to prosecute anyone for corruption in government so long as they pay off MAGA elites. That is exactly like routine operations in Putin's Russian kleptocracy.

Finally in a blatant sign of disrespect for the rule of law, as OMB director in djt's first term in office, he illegally withheld $400 million in congressionally approved Ukraine aid at Trump's request. That lead to djt's first impeachment. When questioned about it, Vought refused to comply with a congressional subpoena. Vought never faced prosecution for his contempt of congress because Merrick Garland was a cynical traitor, secretly supporting djt and MAGA authoritarianism as best he could.


The cognitive biology of tyranny, dissonance and rationality: Three Overton Windows

CONTEXT
To be a reasonably well-informed citizen in a democracy succumbing to radical right kleptocratic authoritarianism, one needs to know a little about the Overton Window. As we all know, the GOP has realigned from old-fashioned, pro-democracy conservatism with elite MAGA and CN (Christian nationalist) tyranny and kleptocracy. 

However, while MAGA and CN elites are authoritarian and anti-democratic, their operational base remains within traditionally conservative institutions and structures, specifically the Republican Party and allied organizations like CPAC, the Heritage Foundation and The Federalist Society. The GOP has functionally merged with MAGA/CN factions, especially since 2016 but arguably going farther back to at least the John Birch Society of the 1960s. The merger and takeover of conservatism blurs traditional distinctions between "conservative" and both "radical right authoritarian" and "kleptocrat." 

MAGA and CN's anti-democratic agenda usually advances via legalistic authoritarianism rather than overt coups, although djt's 1/6/21 coup attempt was an exception. For example, they weaponize the rule of law concept by gerrymandering, judicial appointments, and procedural obstruction, e.g., Senate filibusters. The point is to exploit democratic systems to entrench authoritarian minority rule.

That's a deadly serious problem. For tens of millions of Americans, the label "conservative" effectively masks the authoritarian and kleptocratic agendas of both MAGA and CN elites. That's where the OW (Overton window) comes in.  Many people simply cannot see the ugly reality because authoritarianism and kleptocracy have been propagandized and demagogued to be within an authoritarian OW.


TRIFURCATION OF THE OW

The single Overton window is usually shown about like this  


I've discussed the OW before, e.g., footnote 1 in this post, footnote 1 in this post, footnote 1 of this post, and all of this post. Wikipedia discusses the concept (my inserts are underlined and emphasis added):

The Overton window is the range of subjects and arguments politically acceptable to the mainstream population at a given time. It is also known as the window of discourse. The key to the concept is that the window changes over time. The OW can shift, shrink, expand. The OW can move to the political extreme left or extreme right, especially when driven by decades of divisive demagoguery, lies, slanders and reality-detached, crackpot reasoning. It exemplifies the slow evolution of societal values and norms over time. 

The term is named after the American policy analyst and former senior vice president at Mackinac Center for Public Policy, Joseph Overton, who proposed that the political viability of an idea depends mainly on whether it falls within an acceptability range, rather than on the individual preferences of politicians using the term or concept.

What decades of dark free speech, including demagoguery and constant lies, from MAGA and CN elites has done is to create another "MAGA/CN" OW where authoritarianism and kleptocracy have been normalized and made acceptable concepts for normal political discourse, and government and society generally. According to information Pxy found, extreme polarization in American politics has created three different OWs. There is a 3rd OW at play and it can tip the balance of power:
Q: About what portion or % of adult Americans are trapped in the MAGA/CN Overton Window, what % is in the old pro-secular democracy window and where are the rest of the people politically situated in terms of mindset? 

A: Based on recent polling data and scholarly analysis, the American electorate can be segmented into three broad mindset categories: MAGA/Christian Nationalist (CN) adherents (20–25% of adults), pro-secular democracy advocates (40–45%), and disengaged or conflicted moderates (30–35%).
So there we have it, there are three different OWs. Lots of deep dives with Pxy into this trifurcated politics situation leads to absolutely fascinating research and analysis. For example, in terms of mindset, the moderates tend to be about halfway between the minds that MAGA/CN dark free speech traps compared to the much more fact, true truth and sound reasoning-based pro-secular democracy crowd. The moderates apparently tend to be a bit paralyzed (conflicted) by cognitive dissonance and thus many or most of them are not very informed or engaged with politics. 

Absolutely fascinating stuff. But to try to stay out of the land of TL/DR, or at least not get in any deeper, I'll stop here. 

Not really the OW trifurcation --
replace wise mind with conflicted and
disengaged and maybe that gets fairly close