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Friday, December 17, 2021

Treason alleged against Republican Representative Jim Jordan

Newsweek writes in an article, 'Jim Jordan Is a Traitor' Over Mark Meadows Texts, Says Fellow Congressman:
Democratic Representative Ruben Gallego has called Republican Representative Jim Jordan a "traitor to the Constitution." This comes after Jordan's office confirmed he sent a text to former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows about rejecting Electoral College votes on January 6.

Gallego, who represents Arizona's 7th congressional district, told MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell on Wednesday that "a slow-moving coup" was still taking place.

Gallego told MSNBC: "Look, Jim Jordan is a traitor. He's a traitor to the Constitution of the United States. He has been a traitor to the Constitution of the United States for quite a while, and now we actually have it in text."

"But we shouldn't be surprised and why is anybody surprised?" he said, saying Jordan had lied on the floor of the House of Representatives about the 2020 election.

"My biggest issue isn't Jim Jordan. My issue is the fact that there's a lot of people out there that are not taking this seriously," Gallego went on. "The fact that there is a slow-moving coup that is happening right now all over this country that are led by the Jim Jordans and other people."

Jordan's full message read: "On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all — in accordance with guidance from founding father Alexander Hamilton and judicial precedence. 'No legislative act,' wrote Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No. 78, 'contrary to the Constitution, can be valid.' The court in Hubbard v. Lowe reinforced this truth: 'That an unconstitutional statute is not a law at all is a proposition no longer open to discussion.' 226 F. 135, 137 (SDNY 1915), appeal dismissed, 242 U.S. 654 (1916). Following this rationale, an unconstitutionally appointed elector, like an unconstitutionally enacted statute, is no elector at all."
Jordan's legal rationale is nonsense. But these days, that is what the face of American fascist crackpottery looks like. Guidance from founding father Alexander Hamilton is meaningless. What law Jordan believes is invalid isn't stated, so his reference to the Hubbard v. Lowe legal precedent is also meaningless. Why hasn't Jordan or anyone else filed suit to invalidate the allegedly invalid law(s)? The answer is that there is no invalid law(s) to invalidate. 

Jordan is a liar and a Republican traitor. He is respected by the Republican Party leadership. Logically, that makes the Republican Party leadership treasonous to a significant extent. 

Meanwhile, in other Republican Party news, the ex-president is calling for Mitch McConnell's head because, among other bad things, he has something to do with passage of Biden's unfrastructure bill. Newsweek comments
Former President Donald Trump has issued a statement calling for the replacement of Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, blaming the longtime Kentucky senator for helping Democrats with their "unfrastructure" and "Build Back Worse" bills, both key aspects of President Joe Biden's agenda.

"Mitch McConnell has given away the Unfrastucture Bill and will soon be giving away the Build Back Worse Bill, which will change the very fabric of our society," Trump's Wednesday statement began. "This was all made possible by the two-month extension he gave the Democrats, the separation of the two Bills, and, most importantly, his lack of courage in playing the Debt Ceiling Card."

"He has grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory!" Trump's statement continued. "How this guy can stay as Leader is beyond comprehension—this is coming not only from me, but from virtually everyone in the Republican Party. He is a disaster and should be replaced as 'Leader' ASAP!"  
In early October, McConnell gave Democrats a two-month extension to avoid a vote to raise the debt ceiling until December. He gave them the extension, he said, because he wanted Democrats to say the specific figure that they sought for the new debt ceiling. That amount was nearly $30 trillion, largely to pay for budget items approved during the Trump presidency.

McConnell had also said that he would force Democrats to raise the debt ceiling using a process called reconciliation, which would allow Democrats to pass measures through the Senate with a simple majority vote. He and other Republicans said they preferred reconciliation so that Democrats alone would be responsible for whatever consequences the debt increase might pose.  
However, in early December, McConnell changed course. At that point, McConnell said that he would allow Democrats to avoid using reconciliation by finding 10 Senate Republican votes to approve a raising of the debt ceiling by Democrats using a one-time simple majority vote.

Questions: What about voters who keep voting people like Jordan into office, treasonous or not? What about major Republican Party donors? What about the ex-president, mendacious traitor or not?

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