Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass. Most people are good.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Monday, June 8, 2026

Trump is a chronic liar, in addition to his other moral rot



When Trump speaks he is usually lying, bullshitting or both (~87% of the time)

Trump lied when he said “I never promised no new wars”. He did promise that. Trump told NBC’s Kristen Welker that he “didn’t promise anything” and never pledged “no new wars,” despite repeated 2024 campaign lines like “I’m not going to start a war” and “I will not send you to fight and die in stupid foreign wars that never end.” He rejects the truthful allegation that launching the war with Iran this year betrayed his “No new wars” promise that he made repeatedly as he campaigned again for the White House. Link, link, link

Trump continues to lie about California’s primary election. He claims that California’s recent primary was rigged, even though the allegation is baseless. He linked his lie to the state’s slow ballot-counting process rather than evidence of fraud. Link

Trump repeatedly lies when he tells us that grocery prices are going down or are down. Fact checkers say grocery costs have continued rising, not falling. He lies in both generality and specifics. His lies include specific food items he claims are less expensive but the sources of his price assertions are unknown and he won’t tell us. Link, link

Trump continues to repeat the false claim that the 2020 election was stolen or rigged. Fact-checkers keep repeating the truth that there is no evidence for that claim or that he lost a free and fair election. Link, link

Arguably ranking up there among Trump’s biggest whoppers is his insulting lie to voters and then repeated in official settings that he ended eight wars. Fact checkers say the figure is heavily exaggerated and includes disputes that were not actual wars or that have not ended. The eight wars he falsely claims to have ended include the ongoing Israel–Hamas (Gaza) and Israel–Iran wars. Link, link, link

He has a rock solid track record of not just lying about little things. He constantly lies about very important things like war, food prices and rigged elections. The evidence of chronic lying-bullshitting is solid and compelling. One cannot rationally deny that Trump is a morally rotted, chronic liar in service to his agenda of dictatorship and kleptocracy.

But as usual people can, and many do, irrationally deny his insulting mendacity, downplay it or rationalize it into something false but psychologically comforting enough for the deceived or deluded to actually believe is true.

Q: What is more rational when dealing with Trump’s rhetoric, trust but verify, or distrust and ignore?

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