Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass. Most people are good.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Tuesday, March 11, 2025

InfoWars & the FOIA; maga's anti-science crackpottery; The death of facts & truth

The FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) will probably come under maga attack pretty soon, assuming it isn't already under attack. The FOIA is intended to force transparency into government operations. Politico writes about Musk and DOGE trying to hide what they are doing while resisting responding to FOIA requests:

Judge orders urgent release of DOGE records, 
citing ‘unprecedented’ power and ‘unusual secrecy’

A federal judge has ruled that Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency is wielding so much power that its records will likely have to be opened to the public under federal law.

U.S. District Judge Christopher Cooper said the vast and “unprecedented” authority of DOGE, formally known as the U.S. Digital Service, combined with its “unusual secrecy” warrant the urgent release of its internal documents under the Freedom of Information Act.

It’s the first significant ruling in a growing legal push to pierce DOGE’s secretive veil, a decision that undercuts Musk’s repeated insistence about the operation’s transparency — and the White House’s refrain that Musk is simply a run-of-the-mill presidential adviser with limited decision-making authority.

The article asserts that DOGE’s speed and leadership fluidity is opacity by design. Musk and by his authority djt, are lying about DOGE operations being transparent. As is usual for maga operations, Musk is trying to hide the truth about what he is doing, presumably so that he and djt have plausible deniability for blowback in public opinion.
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The contempt that maga has for established science and vaccines cannot be much clearer. The NYT reports

Kennedy Links Measles Outbreak to Poor Diet 
and Health, Citing Fringe (crackpot) Theories
In a sweeping interview, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the health and human services secretary, outlined a strategy for containing the measles outbreak in West Texas that strayed far from mainstream science, relying heavily on fringe theories about prevention and treatments.

He issued a muffled call for vaccinations in the affected community, but said the choice was a personal one. He suggested that measles vaccine injuries were more common than known, contrary to extensive research.

He asserted that natural immunity to measles, gained through infection, somehow also protected against cancer and heart disease, a claim not supported by research.

He cheered on questionable treatments like cod liver oil, and said that local doctors had achieved “almost miraculous and instantaneous” recoveries with steroids or antibiotics.
“We already are dealing with people that think measles is not a big deal,” said Dr. Leila Myrick, a family medicine doctor in Seminole, Texas, who has been caring for patients with measles for several weeks.

“Now they’re going to think they can get this miracle treatment and that they definitely don’t need to get vaccinated. It’s a 100 percent going to make it harder.”


As far as I am concerned, RFK Jr. is a malicious crackpot monster who is intentionally trying to kill people. He should be arrested for attempted manslaughter or murder. He claims dangers from vaccination while ignoring the benefits. Worse, he falsely claims that natural measles infection protects against cancer and heart disease. 

The malicious crackpot does not mention that a natural infection can cause a major bad side-effect. Natural infection leads to immune suppression, known as "immune amnesia," where the body loses pre-existing immunity to other pathogens, increasing susceptibility to infections for months to years after recovery. One study reported that serious adverse events with a possible causal link to the MMR vaccine occurred at a rate of about 5.3 per 100,000 vaccinations, ~0.0053%. By contrast, immune amnesia after a measles infection manifests is seen after all or nearly all measles infections as a loss of between ~11% to 73% of their antibodies against other bacterial and virus pathogens.  

So, not only does maga have contempt for science, it doesn't care if that contempt poisons minds with stupid, false beliefs and that vicious demagoguery winds up killing people.
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A WaPo opinion discusses how maga creates false realities (not paywalled):


The Trump administration is deleting taxpayer-funded data — information that Americans use to make sense of the world. In its absence, the president can paint the world as he pleases.

We don’t know the full universe of statistics that has gone missing, but the U.S. DOGE Service’s wrecking ball has already left behind a wasteland of 404 pages. All sorts of useful information has disappeared, including data on:




Some of this censorship has been challenged (and at least temporarily reversed) through litigation. Even so, DOGE, which stands for Department of Government Efficiency, has continued its digital book-burning and is now blocking new data collection.


The WaPo opinion goes on to report about other data deleting and fudging tactics. For example, DOGE put out bogus statistics on its supposed government savings. Some fake savings were based on canceled contracts that had already been paid in full, i.e., no savings at all. Some were created out of nothing, such as $50 million that DOGE falsely claims was spent on sending condoms to Gaza. No savings there either.

What is beyond galling here is that us taxpayers paid to collect data that is now deleted. If it has been permanently deleted, that amounts to grand theft. To maga, there is major wealth and power value in getting rid of inconvenient facts and truths. This really is theft. All maga elites involved in directing others to take our data from us should be arrested, prosecuted and tossed in jail for many years.

We are being screwed by corrupt djt and his corrupt maga wealth and power movement.

A taxpayer robbed by the
thief called maga

How many of us are mostly sympathetic to authoritarianism and its corruption?

Waaay back on Feb. 12, 2025 I posted an analysis of whether it is possible to build some form of a kleptocratic authoritarian regime within the confines of the US Constitution. The essence of the analysis was that yeah, kleptocratic authoritarianism can exist within the confines of the US constitution:

The U.S. Constitution's ambiguities, combined with certain Supreme Court interpretations, provide a landscape where authoritarian and kleptocratic tendencies could flourish. The balance between democracy and authoritarianism largely depends on the political culture, the integrity of elected officials, and the vigilance of the judiciary and the public in upholding democratic norms and values. While the Constitution provides a framework for democracy, its effectiveness in preventing authoritarianism or kleptocracy relies heavily on the interpretation and application of its principles by those in power.

Even farther back in time, when carnivorous dinosaurs still roamed the streets of Buffalo and elsewhere and chased people, eating those that got caught (Jan. 2025), NY, I posted about a comparison of democratic conservatism with MAGA authoritarianism. Bottom line, more or less:

While democratic conservatism and authoritarianism share some economic and social policy preferences, their approaches to governance, civil liberties, elections, and the rule of law diverge significantly. Democratic conservatism operates within a framework that values democratic principles, individual liberties, and the rule of law, but just with a conservative interpretation. In contrast, authoritarianism, as exemplified by movements like MAGA, prioritize central control, order, and the maintenance of power, usually at the expense of democratic norms and civil liberties.



Other posts here, e.g., this one and this one, basically accord with those frightening findings. Also in the scary mix are other the ever-present, toxic factors like corruption and mental entrapment by authoritarian DFS (dark free speech). 

Well now, all of that is sobering stuff. Anyway, in the eons since those fine posts, the dinosaurs have gone extinct and the question du jour is how many of us are willing to support some form of kleptocratic authoritarianism? Perp in deep research mode:
Q: What portion of people in modern democratic societies are mostly supportive of authoritarianism and the corruption it usually entails? Is that proportion about the same as in "advanced" dictatorships or kleptocracies like China, Russia and Iran? Does the portion change with changing social circumstances and moral values?

A: Key Findings
Approximately 30–40% of individuals in democratic societies exhibit measurable support for authoritarianism, with higher proportions observed among specific ideological and religious subgroups. In advanced authoritarian regimes like China and Iran, overt public support for the government often exceeds 50–70% in state-controlled surveys, though anonymous studies reveal significantly lower genuine approval (e.g., 50–60% in China). Corruption tolerance varies inversely with regime type: authoritarian systems institutionalize graft as a tool of control, whereas democratic societies generally reject systemic corruption but tolerate it when linked to perceived efficiency. Social crises—economic instability, polarization, and perceived cultural threats—increase authoritarian sympathies in democracies, while authoritarian regimes leverage propaganda and repression to stabilize support.
   

Authoritarian Support in Democratic Societies
Quantifying Authoritarian Leanings

In the United States, 43% of adults score high on the Right-Wing Authoritarianism Scale (RWAS), which measures preferences for social conformity, security, and deference to authority 5 13. Among Republicans, this figure rises to 67%, with Trump supporters showing the strongest alignment (75%) 1 3. Globally, Pew Research Center data from 24 nations indicates that 26% of respondents endorse a system where a “strong leader operates unchecked by legislatures or courts,” with higher approval in younger democracies like India (55%) and Indonesia (53%) 9. These figures reflect a baseline susceptibility to authoritarianism that persists even in established democracies.


Subgroup Variations
Religious Affiliation:
White evangelical Protestants in the U.S. exhibit the highest authoritarian tendencies (64%), followed by weekly churchgoers (55%) 13.

Economic Anxiety: Individuals reporting financial instability are 15–20% more likely to support authoritarian leaders, prioritizing economic security over democratic norms 16.


Authoritarian Regimes: Dissent and Managed Consent
The Illusion of Uniform Support

State-sponsored surveys in authoritarian regimes often report overwhelming public approval. For example, China’s official polls claim 90% support for the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) 7. However, anonymous methodologies reveal a stark contrast: list experiments show genuine approval drops to 50–70%, with urban residents particularly skeptical (41% support) 7 14. Similarly, a 2023 survey of 158,000 Iranians found 81% rejecting the Islamic Republic, preferring secular democracy or constitutional monarchy 8.


Corruption as a Regime Tool
Authoritarian systems institutionalize corruption to consolidate power. In China, anti-corruption campaigns under Xi Jinping have punished over 1.5 million officials since 2012, yet these efforts primarily target political rivals rather than systemic reform 3 6. By framing selective crackdowns as moral stewardship, the CCP has bolstered public perceptions of competence, with 68% of citizens approving anti-corruption measures despite unchanged graft levels 6 12. Russia and Iran similarly use patronage networks to reward loyalists, embedding corruption within state structures while publicly condemning it 12. [Does any of that sound familiar? It sure does to me] 

.... long analysis .... 


Conclusion
Authoritarian support in democracies, while significant, remains context-dependent and reversible through institutional reforms. In contrast, advanced dictatorships rely on coercion and performative anti-corruption to mask declining legitimacy. Both systems face pressures from generational change: democracies must address inequality and polarization to retain youth engagement, while autocracies risk destabilization as digital connectivity undermines propaganda. The persistence of corruption in all regimes underscores its utility as a tool of control, though its manifestations reflect fundamental differences in accountability and power structures.
So between the roughly 43% of Americans who are sympathetic to authoritarianism and attendant corruption and the other ~6.8% who were conned by maga's DFS (lies**, slanders, crackpottery, etc.)  and/or cult socialization, that was enough to put deeply corrupt djt and equally corrupt MAGA elites back in power by a plurality of votes in 2024, i.e., 49.8%.

** For example, maga lies about inflation and high costs generally being all Biden's fault and therefore also Harris' fault were quite effective in getting votes for djt and maga elites. Poll data indicates that maga's inflation lies where among the top three vote-getters for djt in 2024 (resentments about woke/DEI and weak border control were the other two).

Well now, that American pro-authoritarianism sentiment data is also rather scary. We can all hope that Perplexity's analysis is wrong. But I doubt it. The numbers it cites are in accord with my own understanding from various news and science research sources. 

Finally FWIW, the Perplexity analysis is based on 58 references. Here's some of them:

26 Latin American and Caribbean Country authoritarianism poll data:  https://worldjusticeproject.org/news/rule-of-law-surveys-latin-america-caribbean-authoritarian-trends
authoritarian threat index data: https://protectdemocracy.org/threat-index/



Well, maybe my dinosaur extinction data 
has a flaw in it
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Monday, March 10, 2025

Mourning the end of democracy, rule of constitutional law and civil liberties

 This afternoon, I was contemplating the end of our democracy, collapse for respect for facts and our freedoms in the face of MAGA's gigantic demagogic onslaught. I planned to post a couple of music videos with their lyrics. Then Ron, 'lil stinker that he is, posted this a couple of hours ago while I was contemplating this post:


La Marseillaise

Arise children of the fatherland

The day of glory has arrived
Against us tyranny's
Bloody standard is raised
Listen to the sound in the fields
The howling of these fearsome soldiers
They are coming into our midst
To cut the throats of your sons and consorts

To arms citizens Form your battalions
March, march
Let impure blood
Water our furrows

What do they want this horde of slaves
Of traitors and conspiratorial kings?
For whom these vile chains
These long-prepared irons?
Frenchmen, for us, ah! What outrage
What methods must be taken?
It is us they dare plan
To return to the old slavery!

What! These foreign cohorts!
They would make laws in our courts!
What! These mercenary phalanxes
Would cut down our warrior sons
Good Lord! By chained hands
Our brow would yield under the yoke
The vile despots would have themselves be
The masters of destiny

Tremble, tyrants and traitors
The shame of all good men
Tremble! Your parricidal schemes
Will receive their just reward
Against you we are all soldiers
If they fall, our young heros
France will bear new ones
Ready to join the fight against you

Frenchmen, as magnanimous warriors
Bear or hold back your blows
Spare these sad victims
That they regret taking up arms against us
But not these bloody despots
These accomplices of Bouillé
All these tigers who pitilessly
Ripped out their mothers' wombs

We too shall enlist
When our elders' time has come
To add to the list of deeds
Inscribed upon their tombs
We are much less jealous of surviving them
Than of sharing their coffins
We shall have the sublime pride
Of avenging or joining them

Drive on sacred patriotism
Support our avenging arms
Liberty, cherished liberty
Join the struggle with your defenders
Under our flags, let victory
Hurry to your manly tone
So that in death your enemies

See your triumph and our glory!


La Marseillaise, the national anthem of France, was written in 1792 in bloody French Revolution times. Centuries later, it was adopted as the rallying call to the French resistance to Germany. It was was a form of resistance by being sung in defiance of the Nazi occupation, but usually not openly.

OK, that's way better than anything I've got. I give up.

The now obviously pipsqueak points I wanted to make were safe modern times stuff. So nah, I've got nothing to say that doesn't stain those noble sentiments and that horrific level of Nazi threat. 

Maybe I'll save my pipsqueakery for another time or just stop thinking about the concept of trying to translate music to politics. Others have been there, done that and done that about a trillion times better than me.

But hope springs eternal. I listened to La Marseillaise and instantly understood where it was coming from and how grave the threat was. In time people who still respond to that call to arms will die off. People like me and Ron will be gone. I hope something else takes our place in the endless fight against authoritarian darkness, whatever form it comes in.

No more Jack Daniels

 Lord have mercy, but Canadians do know how to play nice, don't they?

No more Jack Daniels on Ontario shelves. No more Jack Daniels going to British Columbia, nor to Quebec.

THAT ought to teach that Trump a lesson.

At least the Premier of Ontario is now putting a surcharge on electricity to the US and threatening to cut power entirely. Trouble is, the pain will be felt by two Democrat states, NY and Minnesota.

How about stopping ALL exports of potash to any state for now? How about cutting out all oil and gas and lumber exports, for now?

How about reaching a free trade agreement with China? How about denying American military aircraft access to Canadian airfields? There is one near where I live and I see their military planes flying there all the time. Cut 'em off.

How about stopping ALL imports of fruits and vegetables from the US? Can't be done? Nuts, I went shopping last week and checked labels, and in Canada there are more fruits and vegetables on the shelves from Mexico that from the US.

How about restricting all travel to the US? Tell all those Snowbirds that love to prop up the Florida economy, either come home or don't expect any protection of your American neighbors turn nasty.

And finally, unrestrict Jack Daniels, this American expat is missing his fix too much. 


End of  rant.