Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Sunday, April 13, 2025

MAGA bits: The DoJ says F.O. to the court; MAGAfying AI; MAGA in congress votes to screw consumers

Two days ago, federal trial court judge Paulina Xinis ordered djt's corrupted, morally rotted DoJ to explain what steps had been taken to return a person the US illegally deported to an El Salvadore death camp. The judge issued this 2 page order.


The judge’s order includes these comments: Second, the Defendants’ [the DoJ] suggestion that they need time to meaningfully review a four-page Order that reaffirms this basic principle blinks at reality. Third, the Defendants misconstrue the Supreme Court’s Order stating that the original deadline at ECF No. 21 is “no longer effective,” as 1 Case 8:25-cv-00951-PX Document 57 Filed 04/11/25 Page 2 of 2 somehow suggesting that the Court’s amended Order requiring prompt attention to this matter is “inconsistent” with the Supreme Court’s directive. Nothing could be further from the truth. 

An article The Guardian published points out that the DoJ’s response basically tells the federal court to fuck off. djt’s DoJ still refuses to comply with court orders by specifying what, if anything the US government has done to get the illegally deported person back to the US. The DoJ’s response framed the USSC’s ruling as a validation of executive authority over foreign affairs, which is contemptuous, insulting and beside the point. The USSC’s order explicitly required the government to “facilitate [Abrego Garcia’s] release from custody in El Salvador” and provide updates on its efforts in this ongoing illegal deportation affair. The DoJ had previously conceded in court that Abrego Garcia’s deportation was unlawful. Justice Sotomayor’s concurrence criticized the government’s position as enabling unchecked executive overreach, stating it would allow deporting even U.S. citizens “without legal consequence.”

djt and MAGA elites in power are inching ever closer to bull-blown, open rebellion against federal courts and rule of law. Our democracy and rule of law are on a knife’s edge.

Peanut 1: When someone is kidnapped and sold into slavery, there’s not really a refund policy.
Peanut 2: Unless, of course, the express goal was to make the person go away and slavery just facilitates the transaction. Art of the Deal!
Peanut 3: Their arguments for ignoring the judge just don't hold water. Just get on the phone and find out where he is and order him moved to a room in a hotel with guards. WTF, Noem went down there for a photo op for Christ's sake. It's not like he is on the dark side of the moon.
Peanut 4: Better yet, just yank Trump off his golf cart, take him to an unknown facility, strip him of all his rights and send him to a prison in say… Iran? I’m sure we wouldn’t even have to pay for them to hold him! It’s a win-win!
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Several sources are reporting that Meta (Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg) have polluted Llama 4 with MAGA propaganda, deceptively claiming to be searching for more balance and fact accuracy between left and right content. 404 Media reports:
Bias in artificial intelligence systems, or the fact that large language models, facial recognition, and AI image generators can only remix and regurgitate the information in data those technologies are trained on, is a well established fact that researchers and academics have been warning about since their inception.

In a blog post about the release of Llama 4, Meta’s open weights AI model, the company clearly states that bias is a problem it’s trying to address, but unlike mountains of research which established AI systems are more likely to discriminate against minorities based on race, gender, and nationality, Meta is specifically concerned with Llama 4 having a left-leaning political bias.

“It’s well-known that all leading LLMs have had issues with bias—specifically, they historically have leaned left when it comes to debated political and social topics,” Meta said in its blog. “This is due to the types of training data available on the internet.”
So, as usual, the question is what is the empirical basis for trust in Zuckerberg’s or Meta’s asserted concern to wipe out liberal bias in the name of neutrality and fact accuracy? Apparently none. What was done, was in secret. 
Q4: How much truth is there in this assertion by 404 Media (link given above): "In a blog post about the release of Llama 4, Meta’s open weights AI model, the company clearly states that bias is a problem it’s trying to address, but unlike mountains of research which established AI systems are more likely to discriminate against minorities based on race, gender, and nationality, Meta is specifically concerned with Llama 4 having a left-leaning political bias." Are there "mountains of research" showing that AI systems are more likely to discriminate against minorities?

A4: The assertion by 404 Media that Meta’s Llama 4 prioritizes correcting perceived left-leaning political bias over addressing well-documented discrimination against marginalized groups aligns with extensive independent research. A synthesis of recent studies reveals systemic AI biases harming racial, ethnic, and gender minorities across critical domains—a reality largely absent from Meta’s public framing of Llama 4’s objectives.

.... long analysis .... 
[From A5] Political Appeasement: The Substack analysis, 2A, ties Llama 4’s development to Meta’s apparent post-2024 election pivot toward conservative U.S. politics, mirroring Elon Musk’s "anti-woke" Grok. This aligns with Mark Zuckerberg’s recent lobbying efforts and Meta’s historical algorithmic boosts to conservative content.
Conclusion: A Misdirected Priority (a misdirection or false equivalence propaganda tactic)
The "mountains of research" referenced by 404 Media—encompassing healthcare 1, employment 2 8, finance 7, and linguistics 4—demonstrate that AI’s most damaging biases disproportionately harm marginalized groups. Meta’s singular focus on political neutrality risks weaponizing false equivalence under the guise of balance, particularly given the current climate of eroded institutional trust. Until LLM developers prioritize transparency 5 and demographic equity 3 over ideological appeasement, claims of "reduced bias" will remain dangerously incomplete.
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The American Prospect reports about MAGA congressional support for banks and Big Tech Cos. screwing consumers:

Congress Stops CFPB From Capping Overdraft Fees, Monitoring Big Tech
The two Congressional Review Act resolutions now go to President Trump

The House of Representatives passed resolutions Wednesday that will nullify two Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) rules. As a result, low-income customers will pay an estimated $5 billion more annually in overdraft fees, and Big Tech will get to pursue its ambitions to make payment apps and other financial services products with little regulatory oversight.

All House Republicans decided to reveal themselves as objectively pro-junk fee in supporting blocking the overdraft fee rule; only Rep. Ryan Mackenzie (R-PA) voted against the larger participant rule. Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) voted against both resolutions in the Senate, but no other Senate Republican did.

Republicans have justified overturning the overdraft fee rule by saying they want to protect consumer choice, an old fallacy that banks have to rip off their customers or they cannot survive. Yet former CFPB director Rohit Chopra’s pressure on larger banks led to many dropping their overdraft fees entirely. (emphasis added)
So, once again djt and his elite MAGA thugs in power are out to screw and screw and screw the consumer in any and all ways possible. There is nothing and no one standing in the way of MAGA’s rape of the American people by endlessly greedy banks, greedy billionaire plutocrats and greedy, corrupt politicians, all of whom are always in desperate need of more wealth and power, and in the case of politicians, in desperate need of more free speech from donors.** 

** Free speech from donors = campaign contributions in federal offices and "gratuities" in state offices  

Q: How was that last paragraph for a principled, fact-based emotional appeal, bad, mediocre or good?
 

He got the fees lowered,
MAGA is going to raise them
with a vengeance

Saturday, April 12, 2025

Is Christian nationalism a significant influence on some USSC decisions?

A Christian statement of opposition 
to Christian nationalism 

Me and some others have been arguing that CN (Christian nationalism) is a significant bad influence on American politics and society. In my opinion, some recent USSC decisions by the Roberts court evince the influence of CN ideology or dogma. However as far as I know, none of those decisions mentions Christianity or CN as an influencing factor or source of authority. Many people believe that unless USSC judges explicitly mention God, the CN movement or CN dogma as a source of influence or authority, it is irrational and unreasonable to ascribe any religious influence on MAGA judges on the USSC. That is an argument I strongly disagree with.

In the following analysis, keep in mind that for human beings it is very hard, probably impossible, for a judge to completely separate their moral values and beliefs from their perceptions of reality and reasoning, both conscious and unconscious. This is a complicating factor that cannot be avoided or denied. We just have to work with it.


What CN is
One source comments: There is no clean and tidy definition of Christian nationalism since it is not a formal religious denomination or sect with a stated doctrine of beliefs; nor is there any single person or council leading Christian nationalism that oversees followers.  

CN thus lacks a formal doctrine or centralized leadership. It generally represents a belief system that advocates for the fusion of Christian identity with American national identity. Religious scholars and sociologists describe it as the belief that the United States is fundamentally defined by Christianity and should maintain this character through government action and policy. CN's core beliefs are (1) the government should preserve America's Christian roots and identity, (2) laws and policies should explicitly reflect Christian values**, (3) the separation of church and state is not a binding principle, and (4) God has a divine plan for America as a Christian nation.

** I thought that our laws already reflected Christian values because our laws, law enforcement and courts are overwhelmingly dominated by Christians and that has always been the case. What CN means here is CN values, not other Christian values that CN dogma hates, e.g., secularism, pluralism and democracy.
  
Two sociologists describe CN like this: CN is "a cultural framework—a collection of myths, traditions, symbols, narratives and value systems—that idealizes and advocates a fusion of Christianity with American civic life." Christian nationalists see secular and pluralistic principles represent ahistorical aberrations in desperate need of correction. One of the sociologists commented that Trump's January 6, 2021, Capitol insurrection and coup attempt was "as Christian nationalist as it gets." Many of the participants said they were motivated by Christian ideology. 

Finally, some experts see the power of the CN movement as mostly a political wealth and power movement (~80%?) than a purely Christian fundamentalist movement (~20%?). From that point of view, Christianity is mostly a stalking horse that hides the CN's corruption and theocratic intent. In that vision, CN is primarily a political ideology that uses religious language and symbols to advance secular power objectives. CN's use of Christian identity to exclude others and consolidate political power is evidence that the movement subordinates religious teachings to political goals when politically expedient.


What is the evidence of CN influence on the USSC?
Because the US Constitution is a secular document that protects all religions, Republican USSC judges cannot explicitly mention God, CN ideology or any CN dogma as an authority or influence. In my firm opinion, it is nonsense to say there is no influence of CN ideology or dogma on the Republican judges because they said nothing about any religion or dogma. Those judges are not stupid. They have the power to never mention God, CN or Christian authority or dogma while still obliterating the Establishment Clause, dismantling church-state separation and gutting civil liberties that God disapproves of, including abortion, universal voting eights, minority protections, and same-sex marriage. None of those judges will ever mention God in their decisions, but that does not mean that God or his dogma has no influence. Common sense, cognitive biology and social behavior all say there is going to be at least some influence.

Therefore, one needs to look for indirect or circumstantial evidence of CN influence on the USSC.

Since John Roberts assumed the role of Chief Justice in 2005 evidence of CN’s influence has become apparent. CN dogma can be found in USSC decisions, the role of CN-aligned MAGA elites in judicial selection, the transparency of nomination processes, and the ideological impact on cases involving LGBTQ+ rights are all in alignment with CN dogma. The vetting process for judicial appointments are opaque and strategic. The public simply has no empirical basis to independently decide about what will guide decisions of a court nominee. We just has to trust a MAGA political process that has clearly proven itself to be untrustworthy. 

The Roberts Court has consistently reinterpreted the First Amendment’s religion clauses to favor CN interests. For example, the Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado (2018) and 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis (2025) cases expanded free exercise and free speech protections for businesses opposing LGBTQ rights. Those decisions align with the CN-driven agenda to elevate CN morality over secular law. 

Religion cases under Roberts show a pronounced tilt, with 9 out of 10 rulings on Establishment and Free Exercise Clause disputes between 2005–2018 favoring Christian positions. That aligns with the CN objective of embedding “biblical principles” into law (and this). Evidence of that is seen in Alito’s concurrence in the Dobbs v. Jackson (2022) anti-abortion ruling.[1] He cited 17th-century theologian Matthew Hale, a figure known for misogynistic views, to justify overturning abortion rights.

The Federalist Society, an authoritarian legal network, is the dominant force in judicial nominations. All six Republican-appointed justices (Roberts, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett, and Thomas) are Federalist Society affiliates, and the Society has supplied over 85% of Trump-era appellate court nominees (and this). While the Society claims neutrality, its leadership, including co-chair Leonard Leo, openly promotes CN-aligned judges who prioritize “biblical worldview” principles.

Organizations like the American Family Association’s Center for Judicial Renewal (CJR) explicitly vet nominees for adherence to CN tenets. CJR’s “Ten Principles of a Constitutionalist Judge” prioritize candidates who affirm America’s Christian heritage and oppose LGBTQ+ rights, abortion, and church-state separation. During Trump’s presidency, this vetting process operated with minimal transparency, as seen in the rushed confirmations of Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett, where key documents were withheld from public review (and this).

Dark money groups such as the Judicial Crisis Network (spending $27 million on Barrett’s confirmation) and The Wellspring Committee have funded campaigns to promote CN-aligned judges while obscuring donor identities (and this9 18. This lack of financial transparency enables CN interests to shape the judiciary without public accountability.

I firmly believe the evidence strongly supports a rational belief that Christian nationalism has exerted significant influence on the Roberts Court. But as usual, opinions differ widely. The big question here is, what is the empirical basis to trust that the six MAGA judges are principled and acting in service to the public interest, not in service to various forms of radical right authoritarianism, including CN politics and policy? 

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For the wonks in the land of TL/DR 

Footnote:
1. Regarding the 2022 Dobbs decision that eliminated a national right to abortion, I asked Pxy about expert legal opinion on that case.
Q: Does most expert legal opinion see the Dobbs USSC decision as anchored in evidence based reason and rationality, with no influence of religious belief or dogma?

A: Most expert legal opinion does not view the Supreme Court's decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization as primarily anchored in evidence-based reason and rationality, with many scholars identifying potential religious influences in the ruling. This conclusion emerges from analyzing a range of legal critiques focusing on the decision's reasoning, methodology, and underlying assumptions. Legal scholars have raised substantial concerns about the Court's reasoning in Dobbs, with most expert opinions finding significant flaws in its legal methodology and conclusions.

Neil Siegel of Duke University Law School offers a particularly pointed critique, stating flatly that "The U.S. Supreme Court's reasoning in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization cannot be taken seriously." He argues that the Court's rationale for rejecting abortion rights protection would logically apply to other substantive due process rights that the Court claims are not under threat. 4 This inconsistency in application suggests reasoning driven by outcome rather than constitutional principles.

Legal experts have specifically criticized how the Court applied stare decisis principles in Dobbs. The Harvard Law Review analysis notes that the Court's emphasis on "disrupted democratic deliberation" fundamentally "altered the scope and substance of the stare decisis calculus." 8 Rather than following established precedent for when to overturn prior decisions, the Court appeared to create new justifications for overruling long-standing precedent.

Joanne Rosen, a health law expert at Johns Hopkins University, describes the ruling as "stunning in its outcome and in the enormity of the implications entailed by the removal of a constitutionally protected right." She further observes that "perhaps for the first time, the Supreme Court departed from precedent not to recognize a right it previously neglected but rather to remove one it previously protected. It deconstitutionalized a long-standing right." 2

The Question of Religious Influence
Some legal scholars directly argue that religious views influenced the Court's decision. An article from the American Constitution Society contends that the Dobbs opinion "was authored by Justice Alito and four other members of the Court who are all conservative Christians. At least four are conservative Catholics." It further claims these justices "placed their personal, conservative Christian beliefs above those of others" and "believes a 'human person' comes into existence immediately upon conception." 3

This view argues that by failing to accommodate diverse religious perspectives on when life begins, the Court effectively privileged one religious viewpoint in its constitutional interpretation.

Other legal experts contest the characterization of Dobbs as religiously motivated. Bruce Ledewitz argues in Canopy Forum that "there is nothing inherently religious about qualms concerning abortion, nor is there anything specifically religious in the Dobbs majority opinion. Abortion is, as Justice Samuel Alito wrote for the majority, a 'profound moral issue.' But, it is not a purely religious one."** 10

** As discussed above, one would fully expect there to be nothing specifically religious in Dobbs. And, lots of religious people argue that to be moral, a person must be religious.

Ledewitz points out that secular anti-abortion positions exist, citing figures like Nat Hentoff, a self-described "Jewish Atheist" columnist who opposed abortion. From this perspective, characterizing all opposition to abortion as religious "exacerbates the religious/non-religious division in America." **

** Arguing that there are non-religious people who oppose abortion is irrelevant to the question of whether CN ideology has influenced some Roberts court decisions. CN theocratic aggression is what exacerbates the religious/non-religious division in America, not opposition to abortion.
Conclusion
The preponderance of expert legal opinion views the Dobbs decision as problematically reasoned, with significant concerns about its constitutional methodology, application of precedent, and internal consistency. While disagreement exists about whether explicitly religious beliefs influenced the decision, many legal scholars identify moral positions aligned with particular religious traditions as having shaped the Court's approach.

While the Court’s legitimacy relies on perceptions of impartiality, the interplay between CN ideology and judicial outcomes reveals a systemic alignment with authoritarian and majoritarian religious values. For advocates of pluralism and secular governance, these trends pose existential challenges to democracy itself 16 18.

Friday, April 11, 2025

MAGA demagoguery about tariff pain: "Weak and stupid people!"

A wonderful essay by Amanda Marcotte that Salon published describes MAGA's propaganda strategy:

Fox News, desperate to defend Trump's tariffs, 
exploits MAGA's masculinity delusions
[Radical] right-wing social media has decided soaring inflation will somehow grant them all tradwives

With the stock market plunging and the threat of hyper-inflation bearing down, the propagandists at Fox News are in quite a pickle. Their job is to paint every dumb decision made by Donald Trump as the work of a secret genius [playing 6-dimensional chess] who is only pretending to be a half-literate idiot. But that's a tough sell, even to their delusional audiences, when Trump's tariffs are wiping out people's retirement accounts and threatening to raise the price of everything from groceries to cars. But Fox News knows there's one reliable way to get their audience to stop worrying about the real world and bury themselves even more deeply in fantasyland: make everything about MAGA's male insecurities.

Unable to deny the economic ruin Trump is inflicting on the nation, the Fox News spinsters have moved to reframing financial privation as a good thing, because it will supposedly restore Americans' lost masculinity. And, in the spirit of the "prosperity gospel" grifters that have cleaved themselves to Trump, Fox pundits are insisting that there will be a great reward for all this fiscal sacrifice: the restoration of male dominance over women. "Suffer now, but have faith in Trump, and he will bestow upon thee a tradwife" is the basic pitch.

"Could Trump's tariffs be the ultimate testosterone boost?" declared Greg Gutfeld on "The Five," immediately answering the question with a "yes." The propaganda team was boosted by a hamfisted chyron declaring that Trump's tariffs are "manly."


For those unclear on how paying way more for bananas and blue jeans will boost your testosterone, well, the tortured justification they offer isn't helpful. [Faux News blowhard] Jesse Watters tried to argue that tariffs will somehow magically result in millions of jobs doing physical labor, for which there is no evidence. (In reality, it will hurt existing manufacturing by raising prices on materials, and hurt agriculture by shutting down markets farmers depend on.) Watters went on to argue that these fictional jobs will restore manhood stolen from men who, like Watters, have desk jobs.

"When you sit behind a screen all day, it makes you a woman. Studies have shown this," said a still-male Watters as he sat behind the camera screen he stares at all day. This follows his lie from last week, when Watters promised tariffs would "turn the country into a place with thriving main streets and hometowns." This 1950s fantasy is the exact opposite of reality. The prosperity of the "Leave It To Beaver" era was kicked off because tariffs were dramatically lowered and taxes on the richest Americans reached historic highs — the opposite of Trump's economic plans.

Most right-wing propagandists aren't even trying to make argument-shaped pitches, but instead embracing the fascist method of portraying tariffs as a trial that will restore American manhood through pain. Sean Hannity scolded a caller who was angry about investment losses by telling him, "You don't have the stomach." MAGA influencer Benny Johnson mocked people worried about inflation by calling them "totally dependent and on our knees." He insisted losing money "builds quite a bit of character." Trump joined in by declaring Republican opponents of tariffs to be "Weak and Stupid people!"   

This is fascist rhetoric, in no small part because it's all emotion, no reason or logic. But it's feeding off a recent trend, fed by predatory social media influencers, that conflates masculinity with punishing self-discipline, the kind that rejects all pleasure and comfort as a feminizing — and thereby evil — force. This was most recently illustrated in a viral video by fitness influencer Ashton Hall, who unpersuasively insisted he rises before 4 AM for literal hours of working out and torturing himself with ice baths, while denouncing any form of self-indulgence. Eschewing sex and going to bed early is the key, he declares, to preventing "a weak mind, bad decisions or lack of productivity."

The "real men eschew comfort" mentality is quite convenient right now. Trump's actual reasons for imposing tariffs are a combination of off-the-charts stupidity and malice. But his fans cannot admit their hero-god is wreaking havoc on their pocketbooks for no good reason. Instead, this is being spun into a story not unlike Job's trials at the hands of God. But Trump-God isn't just testing their faith, but their manhood. And, to listen to Watters, if they hang in and prove their mettle, Trump will reward them with a 50s-era fantasy, complete with a submissive tradwife.
Well there we have it ladies 'n germs. If we don't like losing money, we're weak and stupid. 

Hm, I spend a lot of time with my computer screen. Have I turned into a woman?


Qs: Is it unfair or counterproductive to refer to Faux News instead of Fox, or does the reality of it all warrant the label? (It won't faze Faux viewers) Has Germaine morphed into a woman, human or otherwise?


Lizard woman - too much screen time 
used to be a lizard man

InfoWars and messaging wars: Do we deserve the politicians and government we get?

I think some of us do. The ones who voted for djt and MAGA Republicans, and the ones who didn't vote for Harris arguably deserve what they are getting. But what about the rest of us?

As usual, there are complexities.[1] For example, (i) gerrymandering gives political parties the power to choose their voters, rather than voters choosing their representatives, (ii) the electoral college means that for president some votes have more power than others, (iii) primary elections tend to produce more radical candidates, which tend on the political right to be corrupt, anti-democratic and pro-authoritarian, and (iv) voter power depends on accurate information, which means that mass media has a lot of power to either empower or disempower voters. 

Things like lying, slandering (or insulting), distorting information, hiding information, irrational emotional manipulation and asserting flawed reasoning shifts power from deceived people to the deceivers. It takes from deceived and manipulated voters their power to use their vote to get who and what they want. That shields politicians from accountability. 

In theory, the federal government could ban gerrymandering because it is fundamentally anti-democratic. But that's not going to happen. We need to get rid of the electoral college, but that's also a pipe dream. Also impossible, are (i) imposing ethics laws with real teeth on the Supreme Court, (ii)  disincentivizing (taxing?) lies and crackpottery in mass and social media, (iii) relying on some sort of morality check to independently rank political candidates on the basis of pro-morality traits like honesty, reliance on sound reasoning, and sufficient relevant experience needed for competence in the job (inexperienced = unqualified or at least underqualified = a possible indicator of bad moral character for trying to get the job). 



Upping the messaging game
What a mess. There are lots of deceived and manipulated Americans. Many of them, probably a large majority, cannot be coaxed into reality by fact and sound reasoning alone. That seems to be more a fact than an opinion. Since major reform efforts are doomed for the foreseeable future, all that's left that is non-violent appears to be better messaging against the rising tide of MAGA demagoguery, authoritarianism and corruption.

What's a better messaging strategy that does not veer into dark free speech such as demagoguery, lies slanders, etc.? The only thing that is available seems to strong appeals to emotion packaged with just enough fact and sound reasoning to shift the message from one that is mostly an appeal to evidence and rationality to one that mostly appeals to emotional. 

Unless I already do mostly appeal to emotion, I will try to consciously shift my content from appeals to evidence and reason to mostly appeals to emotion. 


Yabut whadabout logic fallacy?
According to Wikipedia, appealing to emotion, or argumentum ad passiones, is an informal fallacy characterized by the manipulation of the recipient's emotions in order to win an argument, especially in the absence of factual evidence. This kind of appeal to emotion is irrelevant to or distracting from the facts of the argument (a so-called "red herring") and encompasses several logical fallacies, including appeal to consequences, appeal to fear, flattery, pity, ridicule, or spite, and wishful thinking. .... It is only fallacious when the emotions that are elicited are irrelevant to evaluating the truth of the conclusion and serve to distract from rational consideration of relevant premises or information. .... The power of emotions to influence judgment, including political attitudes, has been recognized since classical antiquity. Aristotle, in his treatise Rhetoric, described emotional arousal as critical to persuasion. .... Disagreeing with Seneca the Younger that emotion destroys reason, the 18th century Scottish philosopher George Campbell argued, instead, that emotions were allies of reason, and that they aid in the assimilation of knowledge. However, Campbell warned of the malleability of emotion and the consequent risk in terms of suggestibility:

[Emotions] are not supplanters of reason, or even rivals in her sway; they are her handmaids, by whose ministry she is enabled to usher truth into the heart, and procure it to favorable reception. As handmaids, they are liable to be seduced by sophistry in the garb of reason, and sometimes are made ignorantly to lend their aid in the introduction of falsehood.


Qs: 1) Under current political, social, religious and commercial circumstances, is appealing to emotion necessarily a logic fallacy, or can emotional appeals be mostly honest and mostly moral because they are strongly or completely aligned with facts, true truths and sound reasoning, i.e., not unreasonably distracting from rational consideration. 2) Are current political, social, religious and commercial circumstances relevant here to honesty and morality? 3) Do I already mostly appeal to emotion?


But what if that child really is starving?


Footnote:
1. Pxy:
Q: In view of the human condition, including human cognitive biology and social behavior, and current political circumstances, how true is the following assertion?: “we get the politicians (or government) we deserve." Take into account the relative persuasive power of honest speech (facts, truths and sound reasoning) compared to dishonest speech (demagoguery, lies, slanders, crackpot conspiracies, etc.) under modern circumstances, e.g., social media, giant corporations with vast power, political radicalization, etc.

A: .... long analysis ....

Cognitive constraints 

Confirmation Bias and Political Reasoning
Almost every political actor, from ordinary citizens to syndicated pundits, regularly falls victim to confirmation bias—the tendency to seek information that confirms existing beliefs while disregarding contradictory evidence. This cognitive shortcut allows people to maintain confidence in their political positions despite opposing views, creating echo chambers that reinforce polarization.

The Focusing Illusion in Political Attention
Daniel Kahneman's "focusing illusion" demonstrates that what we focus on becomes disproportionately important in our minds. As described by politicwise.org, "what you focus on becomes important to you. What is important to you becomes important to your politics." This explains why media coverage shapes political priorities, often elevating sensational issues over substantive policy matters.

Conclusion
The statement "we get the politicians we deserve" contains an important kernel of truth about collective responsibility in democratic systems. Citizens do shape their political environment through their choices and non-choices. However, this perspective must be balanced against recognition of the systemic constraints and cognitive limitations that influence political outcomes.

True political agency requires not just moral virtue from citizens but also information environments that enable meaningful deliberation. Without addressing the structural advantages that dishonest speech currently enjoys in our media ecosystem, we will continue to see a disconnect between the government we deserve and the government we actually get.

Thursday, April 10, 2025

MAGA bits: Liars; Freaks; Thugs


DB reports that defense secy. Pete Hegseth deleted an important sentence from the English translation of a Panama Canal statement in Spanish: Hegseth’s Panama Canal Statement Leaves Out a Major Detail From Spanish Version -- A joint statement released Tuesday by the Pentagon following talks between U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Panamanian President José Raúl Mulino omitted appeared to omit a significant detail. Mulino and Hegseth released a joint statement following their talks, the Spanish version of which included the line: “Secretary Hegseth recognized the leadership and inalienable sovereignty of Panama over the Panama Canal and its adjacent areas.” That detail was nowhere to be seen in the English-language version released by the Pentagon, the Associated Press first reported.

From here on out, we can expect nothing but obliteration (denial, distortion, downplay, blame shift, etc.) of all inconvenient facts, true truths and sound reasoning from not only the DoD, but the entire MAGA federal government. 

And, MAGA does not recognize the leadership and inalienable sovereignty of Panama over the Panama Canal and its adjacent areas. That’s interesting. I bet Mulino is wondering . . . . . is it Defcon 1 time for the Panamanian military? Who knows. MAGA is a very nasty black box.
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MJ reports that at least one AI Poobah and MAGA extremist always intended AI to be used for facial recognition to target and purge liberals and immigrants: The Shocking Far-Right Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI --- Thousands of newly obtained documents show that Clearview AI’s founders always intended to target immigrants and the political left. Now their digital dragnet is in the hands of the Trump administration. --- An immigrant to the United States himself, Hoan Ton-That grew up in Melbourne and Canberra and claimed to be descended from Vietnamese royalty. At 19, he dropped out of college and, in 2007, moved to San Francisco to pursue a tech career. He later fell in with Silicon Valley neoreactionaries who embraced a far-right, technocratic vision of society. Now Ton-That and his partners wanted to use facial recognition to keep people out of the country. Certain people. Their technology would put that ideology into action. .... A diehard Donald Trump supporter, Ton-That envisioned using facial recognition to compare images of migrants crossing the border to mugshots to see if the arrivals had been previously arrested in the United States.

Remember my 4/1/25 post about NRx, neoreactionary authoritarianism, for the young 'uns? No? Here's the link. Good old Ton-That is one of those NRx freaks. Interestingly he is, or claims to be, a Vietnamese immigrant to Australia who immigrated to the US to help set up a system to spot immigrants and get them booted out of the country. As Spock would say, fascinating. Let's boot out Ton-That!

Hey! I've been there and ton that! Nyuk, nyuk!

Peanut 1: This is what Republicans voted for. Your Republican neighbor, your Republican pastor, your Republican uncle, etc...they're all either dumbfucks or fascists, there is nothing in between.

Peanut 2: Hey give them some credit. Some of them are dumbfucks and fascists that fall perfectly between.

Peanut 3: Evil people have an inherent competitive advantage because ignoring laws, rules, and ethics multiplies your opportunities to make more money by a ton-that. Especially when government regulation of such behavior gets as soft as the US has gotten over the past 50 years (thanks boomers). Now, predictably evil people have more wealth than entire countries and are using their wealth to buy governments and further tip everything in favor of further increasing their power and wealth.

I sense some disgruntlement in the peanut gallery.
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TNR reports about MAGA thugs gleefully deporting bona fide US citizens for committing crimes: Press Secretary Says Trump Wasn’t Joking About Deporting U.S. Citizens --- Donald Trump had suggested sending American citizens to prison in El Salvador --- During a press briefing, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt was asked to explain Trump’s disturbingly enthusiastic response to Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele’s wildly illegal proposition for the U.S. government to relocate individuals incarcerated in the federal prison system, including American citizens, to the Central American country. .... “These would be heinous, violent criminals who have broken our nation’s laws repeatedly. These are violent, repeat offenders in American streets,” Leavitt said.

Well, OK, only deport heinous, violent, repeat offender criminals! Hm, I wonder if this blog constitutes a place of heinous, violent, repeat offender crime in MAGA’s opinion. Nah, probably not. I hope. 

What could give one pause, is djt’s disturbingly enthusiastic response to boxing ’em up and shipping ’em out. That’s a bit creepy coming from a hyper-vindictive, thin-skinned, dictator-wannabe who is the US president.

Wednesday, April 9, 2025

MAGA chunk & bit: djt bigly pays off the carbon energy sector; Rank & file thinking

In his EO (executive order) from yesterday, djt royally pays off the energy sector for its support of him. The payoff is huge:

PROTECTING AMERICAN ENERGY FROM STATE OVERREACH
Section 1. Purpose. My Administration is committed to unleashing American energy, especially through the removal of all illegitimate impediments to the identification, development, siting, production, investment in, or use of domestic energy resources — particularly oil, natural gas, coal, hydropower, geothermal, biofuel, critical mineral, and nuclear energy resources. .... New York, for example, enacted a “climate change” extortion law that seeks to retroactively impose billions in fines (erroneously labelled “compensatory payments”) on traditional energy producers for their purported past contributions to greenhouse gas emissions not only in New York but also anywhere in the United States and the world.

Sec. 2. State Laws and Causes of Action. (a) The Attorney General, in consultation with the heads of appropriate executive departments and agencies, shall identify all State and local laws, regulations, causes of action, policies, and practices (collectively, State laws) burdening the identification, development, siting, production, or use of domestic energy resources that are or may be unconstitutional, preempted by Federal law, or otherwise unenforceable. The Attorney General shall prioritize the identification of any such State laws purporting to address “climate change” or involving “environmental, social, and governance” initiatives, “environmental justice,” carbon or “greenhouse gas” emissions, and funds to collect carbon penalties or carbon taxes.
In other words, this EO represents a major federal attack on all state climate policies. It orders djt's MAGA-corrupted DoJ to challenge all state environmental regulations that energy producers do not like. Presumably, they like no state regulation. Particular emphasis in the EO is on gutting state-level climate initiatives. Thus, all state carbon or greenhouse gas emissions regulations and carbon pollution penalties or taxes are going to be obliterated.

I asked Pxy to estimate the value of killing off all state environmental regulations that affect the carbon energy sector in the first year: “Summary of Key Findings: The elimination of all state energy regulations would likely generate $150–$400 billion in annual savings for the fossil fuel and traditional energy sectors, primarily through reduced compliance costs, operational flexibility, and avoided investments in clean energy infrastructure. .... State lawsuits targeting fossil fuel companies for climate damages (e.g., New York’s “climate extortion laws”) impose billions in potential liabilities. Eliminating these could save the industry $10–$30 billion annually in legal settlements and retroactive fines.” 

Net Economic Impact of Eliminating State Environmental 
Regulations for Year 1 and Later years

Category

Annual Value to Energy Sector

Fossil Fuel Savings


Compliance costs

$80–$120 billion

Avoided renewables spend

$50–$100 billion

Market power gains

$19–$30 billion

Legal liability reduction

$10–$30 billion

Total Gains

$159–$280 billion

Renewables Losses


Stranded investments

-$200–$336 billion

Job/wage declines

-$45–$75 billion*

Net Sector Impact

-$86–$131 billion

* Estimated economic value of 1.3 million jobs at $35,000–$58,000 median wages

What about killing off all federal energy regulations in the first year?: “Eliminating all federal energy regulations would likely generate $190–$380 billion in annual savings for the traditional energy sector, primarily through reduced compliance costs, increased pricing power, and avoided investments in clean energy infrastructure. However, these gains would disproportionately benefit fossil fuel industries while destabilizing renewable energy markets, with long-term economic trade-offs potentially offsetting short-term windfalls.”

Energy sector free speech (“campaign contributions”) paid off very nicely. Return on investment ranges from a low of about 340:1 to a high of about 780:1, assuming the carbon energy sector spent $1 billion in free speech costs for the 2024 elections, which was the amount djt asked them to give him. Truthout reported that during his 2024 campaign, Trump "openly requested $1 billion from Big Oil," promising favorable policies in return, such as declaring a "national energy emergency" and rolling back environmental regulations (and this). DOUBLE MAGA!!

Net Economic Impact of Eliminating Federal Environmental 
Regulations for Year 1 and Later years

Category

Annual Value to Energy Sector

Fossil Fuel Savings


Compliance costs

$190–$380 billion

Avoided renewables spend

$50–$100 billion

Market power gains

$19–$30 billion

Total Gains

$259–$510 billion

Renewables Losses


Stranded investments

-$200–$336 billion

Job/wage declines

-$45–$75 billion*

Net Sector Impact

-$86–$131 billion

Estimated economic value of 1.3 million jobs at median energy sector wages


djt's and MAGA elites' environmental plan
for us to enjoy nature in all of its splendor!


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Perfect MAGA logic