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Friday, December 20, 2019

What Worries Evangelical Christians

The key fears that American Evangelical Christians often voice is fear about attacks on their freedom of religion and religious speech, and the existence of abortion rights. The fear of abortion is in the context of existing law that forces no woman to have an abortion, while increasingly draconian abortion restriction laws now prevent abortions for some women who want them. Regarding religious practice and speech, they feel besieged by what the see as relentless anti-Christian attacks. This is never said as far as I can recall, but presumably they believe that attacks on religion are leading to a society where religious practice will come to be banned and punished, or relegated to some sort of persecuted underground existence.

If that accurately describes fears for religion, it has never made any sense to me.

All US presidents have been or at least claim to be Christian. That includes the current president. Congress, state governors and state legislatures are all dominated by Christians and that has always been the case. The US military and civilian police forces are dominated by Christians and that has always been the case. Most federal and state judges are Christian and always have been. Republican presidents appoint radical conservative Christian justices to the Supreme Court and other federal courts. The dominant religion among the American people is Christianity. On top of that massive solid wall of overwhelming pro-Christian political, social, law enforcement and judicial power and dominance, US law forces Americans to subsidize religion with tax breaks worth over $80 billion/year.


Under those circumstances, Evangelical Christian fear of persecution is baffling to say the least. What is there to fear? The list above doesn't even cover all the power and rights that Christians have but take for granted or ignore, e.g., private and state employers in states that don't ban discrimination  against non-heterosexual people can and do fire employees simply for being non-heterosexual.

Exactly what dire threats do Evangelical Christians see that terrifies them so much that about 70% of them support a corrupt, deeply immoral president? They often point to same-sex marriage as a massive threat to religious practice and speech. They cite the example of a few businesses in some states that have been sanctioned for discriminating against same-sex couples in commerce. (Only 22 states and D.C. have anti-discrimination laws and in the other states, discrimination against non-heterosexual people is completely legal and Christians can discriminate all they want in the name of their heavily protected personal religious freedom; federal law does not explicitly ban discrimination against LGBT Americans) Some Christians claim they fear perverts in public and gender-neutral public bathrooms. Despite their massive privilege, power and majority status, they fear non-heterosexual people and want unfettered freedom to discriminate against them in commerce in defense of religious freedom.

Employers and governments in states in gray can discriminate 
against non-heterosexual people in commerce and employment

The Christianity Today editorial
Against that context, the Evangelical publication Christianity Today (CT) published an editorial yesterday asserting that the president should be removed from office on constitutional and moral grounds. Despite that conclusion, the editorial firmly asserts that in this impeachment, democratic motives have always been bad and partisan, the facts are questionable because of partisan animus and the president has been treated unfairly by being unable to defend himself. Despite that logically incoherent defense of Trump,[1] CT concludes the president should be removed from office. CT writes:
But the facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral. 
The reason many are not shocked about this is that this president has dumbed down the idea of morality in his administration. He has hired and fired a number of people who are now convicted criminals. He himself has admitted to immoral actions in business and his relationship with women, about which he remains proud. His Twitter feed alone—with its habitual string of mischaracterizations, lies, and slanders—is a near perfect example of a human being who is morally lost and confused.

The CT editorial points out that in the Clinton impeachment in 1998, CT argued this in favor of impeaching Clinton and removing him from office:
The President's failure to tell the truth—even when cornered—rips at the fabric of the nation. This is not a private affair. For above all, social intercourse is built on a presumption of trust: .... And while politicians are notorious for breaking campaign promises, while in office they have a fundamental obligation to uphold our trust in them and to live by the law. .... Unsavory dealings and immoral acts by the President and those close to him have rendered this administration morally unable to lead.

What is surprising is the emphasis on morality as a basis to assess political behavior. Some evidence indicates that for Evangelical Christians, personal morals changed to accommodate the president's immoral character and behavior. Before Trump, they believed that morality in a president was important more than other groups, but by June of 2017, Evangelical Christians was the least likely group to say that morality in a president was important. Does the CT editorial reflect a swing of the moral pendulum back to pre-Trump days? That's not yet clear.[2]

Footnote:
1. Regarding CT's flawed logic: If Trump was unable to defend himself and the facts are in question as CT asserts, then there is no objective basis to call for Trump's removal from office. The CT assertion that democratic motives are bad is irrelevant if facts count in deciding what the president did or did not do. Neither partisanship nor bad faith changes objectively true facts to false facts. The CT editorial seems to reflect a lack of understanding on that point.

2. Not surprisingly, the president has incoherently attacked CT as a far left organization that wants to take religion and guns away: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1207997316424187905

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