Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass. Most people are good.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Wednesday, August 20, 2025

To Be (or Am), or Not to Be (or Am)...

 

That is the question.

Like pert near every religion out there, scientific pantheism (SP) has its, let’s call them, “variations.”  We can tweak beliefs just like any other “religion” can, though SP is not officially considered a religion per se.  It’s more a philosophy… but isn’t every religion just that, a philosophy?  An OP for another day, perhaps. 😉

This subject of SP came up yesterday, when I was talking with my stepson.  He’s 58.  The conversation remained cordial throughout, as we got into discussing whether or not I was an atheist.  That reminded me of an event about 20ish years ago.  I said, “And I’m still pissed that you told Tommy (grandkid) I was an atheist, back when Tommy was about four years old and said to me on the phone, “Why are you an atheist, Oma Susan?”  Well, that’ll take one aback.  You don’t expect that from a kid.  

How do you even talk to a little 4-ish year-old child about such deep subjects?  As I recall, I said something like, “Well, it’s kinda complicated.”  Then I hastily changed the subject.

Point being, am I an atheist?  Let me do a little ‘splainin’.

To answer that question, I think it depends on one’s personal definition.  To my stepson and his family, born again Christians, I’m an atheist based on their subjective opinion.  It’s true, I don’t believe in their god.  But, that doesn’t make my belief so.  It’s just my belief.  But to them, that makes me an atheist. 🤷‍♀️

I’ve changed a lot, over the past 25 years, when it comes to my religious philosophy.  After a whole lotta lifelong searching, I finally found my niche that suits me.  I identify it as the aforementioned SP.  Here’s a writeup by the World Pantheism dot net site:

Link.

(Love their fractal-like Nautilus logo!)

While I’m not on board 100% with World Pantheism’s SP definition (e.g., wherever the word “God” is used, rather, I’d qualify it as the “God Process,” not a/the “God Entity”), their definition is basically true/in my ballpark; i.e., no supernatural entity.  For me, I hone in on that which fundamentally enables existence.  That’d be the Laws of Physics, in particular, particle physics, the first step (we think) in “creation.”  AFAIK, no particles and forces, no existence (as we know and have come to understand/experience it).

What I like about SC is it’s verifiable.  It’s observable (both through direct observation, or through an artist’s’ rendition/representation, due to no existing instrumentation). It’s personal.  It’s experience-able (coined a new word there).  It's here and now, not there and later.  The "power" of particle physics is, well, all-powerful (I'd say the ultimate power).  No doubt about that one.

Question: So, what do you think?  Am I an atheist?  Do/Would you consider me one?  Explain.  

Enquiring minds like mine want to know.

(by PrimalSoup)



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