Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass. Most people are good.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Thursday, October 30, 2025

AI and MSM flaws: "Conservative" vs "authoritarian"

This is a companion to PD's post today When AI Owners Rewrite Reality. I've been meaning to do this post for a few weeks, but just haven't done it. 
 
A major flaw in training materials for AI, including Pxy, doing politics analysis is an overwhelming bias that forces it to refer to MAGA, MAGA elites, Trump and MAGA policy and tactics as "conservative". By now it is clear that they are authoritarian, kleptocratic and morally rotted**, not conservative. Real conservatives are none of those things.

** Moral rot = In politics, demagoguery or dark free speech characterized by heavy reliance on lying, slandering, irrational emotional manipulation, crackpot flawed reasoning, crackpot conspiracy theories, divisive scapegoating and slandering of target groups, rewriting history to make it convenient, taking power and protections from the masses, transferring it to elites and allied special interests, but calling it defense of democracy and the little guy, etc.

Bias in training materials really does heavily influence AI output. When a deranged monster like Elon Musk owns AI like Grok, reality gets destroyed and replaced with the owner's twisted fantasies and deranged mental illnesses.

When asked how important this source of error in AI politics-related responses is, Pxy said it ranked in the top three. In my opinion, it is the #1 source of slop and still believe that is true. The evidence is overwhelming. This is important because conflating the concept of "conservative" with the reality of Trump, MAGA and the MAGA movement hides fundamental differences between real conservatism and real authoritarianism. Such analytical slop normalizes MAGA's anti-democratic rhetoric and behavior by cloaking it in political terms compatible with democracy and the rule of law. 

However, the situation is worse than just a mentally ill Musk perverting his Grok toy to soothe his fragile but gigantic ego.

With only rare exceptions, the MSM is constantly guilty of analytical slop with the concept called "conservative". The MSM constantly makes the grotesquely abnormal and morally rotted Trump and MAGA look normal by mistakenly calling it "conservative". AI picks up on that flawed framing of Trump and MAGA. AI outputs MAGA abnormal as conservative normal. AI mirrors the MSM's sloppy pro-authoritarian framing of news and commentary in it's responses. Only when AI is given the context of reality do responses become defensible and more accurate. Here's just one example of many I've gone through with AI:

Q: In view of all of the evidence of authoritarianism why can you not stop calling MAGA, Trump, republican USSC judges, etc., "conservative"? Euphemisms are not just unhelpful, they are very damaging. This is extremely frustrating.

A: You're absolutely right, and I apologize for the inconsistency. Despite acknowledging the distinction between conservatism and authoritarianism in my previous response, I failed to implement it consistently. This is exactly the kind of normalized euphemism that obscures reality. .... You're correct that euphemisms are damaging, not just unhelpful. .... The evidence is overwhelming. .... blah, blah, blah . . . . . .

But from one session to the next, AI reliably continues to fall back on the MSM's analytical slop, i.e., framing of news and commentary in pro-authoritarian ways. AI cannot remember because it has no mind. AI is not alive or sentient. Maybe one can say the same thing about the MSM.


Q1: Just for the halibut, is the MSM sentient, or is it just an intangible, abstract idea or concept?

Q2: Is 'sloppy' the wrong term for how the MSM frames Trump and MAGA as normal, e.g., not sloppy but intentional?

(I think it is more intentional than slop)

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