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Saturday, July 18, 2026

Trump's lies about election interference by China and the deep state

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"IC Mainline Judgments: Beijing has not deployed influence efforts 
intended to change the outcome of the US presidential election" 
Influence  interference


On July 16, Trump have a highly publicized prime time speech to reveal huge evidence of massive election vote and voter fraud. As expected, his speech consisted of a pack of unsubstantiated lies, falsehoods and bizarre crackpottery. Trump prominently blamed China and the evil Deep State for shocking vulnerabilities in American voting systems and vote counts. But neutral assessments of the documents he released (available at this link) show that his allegations were false, unsubstantiated and/or idiotic. The documents again show that Russia tried real hard to get Trump elected, but there's nothing of substance about China or any alleged American Deep State fraud. Not much new information was released.

Some analysist assert that Trump's obvious goal is to set the stage for him to directly intervene in and subvert the 2026 mid-term elections.   

Q: Is Trump's allegations credible in view of the contrary evidence in the documents he says proves his story, or is he as usual just a morally rotten dictator lying to the American people?

Info sources: 
Trump Just Did More Damage to American Elections Than China -- ..... what these documents discuss are influence operations—propaganda, proxies who speak for foreign interests, fake stories, and so on—rather than interference, which would involve actual manipulation of data or sabotaging of electoral infrastructure. These classified revelations, despite Trump’s assertions, show that the intelligence community didn’t even agree that China was fully engaged even in these more limited influence operations.

The Documents Trump Declassified To Blame China For The 2020 Election… Actually Show Russia Was The One Meddling For Him -- At a fundamental level, none of it makes sense. He’s focused on the 2020 election, when HE was in charge of the government. Assuming that there really was a huge foreign effort then, wouldn’t it have also worked in 2024 when Trump won, but Biden was president?

Trump Accidentally Proves That Putin Did Help Him Run for President -- Among the newly declassified intelligence documents Trump released Thursday are assessments that the Russian president and senior Russian officials directed proxy efforts to spread allegations about Joe Biden and Burisma, ..... orchestrate a corruption scandal against the Democratic nominee, and “ensure the President’s victory,” a reference to Trump, who was the incumbent at the time.

Trump Election Documents Reveal China, Russia Targeted Joe Biden -- A Newsweek review of the documents posted on the White House’s website found no evidence supporting Trump's claim that foreign interference or fraud had altered the outcome of any election, including the 2020 presidential election.

‘Trump Is Trying to End Our Democracy’: Alarm as President Attacks Elections Ahead of Midterms -- Trump, who has said his administration should “take over” US elections that are currently run by states, asserted in his speech that the American voting system was “left vulnerable to being rigged and stolen” by his political enemies and accused China of “illicit acquisition of 220 million US voter files” in an effort to undermine him.

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