Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass. Most people are good.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Monday, February 17, 2025

Canards and Tropes

 

canard

noun



a false or unfounded report or story
: a groundless rumor or belief


trope

noun

figurative or metaphorical use of a word or expression.
a significant or recurrent theme; a motif.


More and more lately I have wanted to stay away from Politics. I got into it with someone I consider a friend yesterday. In my opinion he was displaying some canards that I found offensive but he didn't see them as such.

AND I GET IT!

When some whitey calls a black criminal a thug......... that is viewed nowadays as a "trope". Yet the literal meaning of the word is race free. 
It's how it is used.

Same with canards. The BLM riots were violent. Yes, some were, but any analysis of those riots would dispel the notion that the BLM protests were "riots" except in isolated instances. Yet the canard persists.

I am NOT here today to get into it again with anyone! I just wanted to express my frustration with our tendencies to use canards and tropes in order to prove a point.

AND while the worst examples may be found on the Right, the Left has their canards and tropes they use on Trump voters or Republicans, or those who lean Right.

BUT......................... and this is a big BUT.............

When heated debates happen, we have the tendency to lean on canards and tropes and characterizations and stereotypes and beliefs that this group of people or that group of people are this or that.

Why discussing politics, particularly in THIS era, cannot be civil.

Am I wrong? 


Sunday, February 16, 2025

Simple question ........................ YET not so simple.

 The quote, “He who saves his country does not violate any law,” which Bonaparte used during his reign as emperor, was shared by Trump on his Truth Social platform.

So............................

Is it time for the Left, the Democrats, even normally civil-minded people, to start breaking the law in order to "save" the country from Trump?

Amid Democrats’ shock and bickering over how much to respond to President Donald Trump is a deeper question rippling through leaders across the Capitol and across the country: How much should they rely on the same institutional and procedural maneuvers they used during the first Trump term, and how much are they willing to wield their own wrecking balls?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/16/politics/democrats-strategy-powerless-trump/index.html

And what would breaking the law to save the country from Trump look like?




Saturday, February 15, 2025

Dictatorship bits: Vicious retribution; DoJ's subversion; Crapifying jobs; MAGA gits ’er done

The AP reports that DJT has banned the AP from access to the Oval Office and Air Force One because an AP reporter used the phrase Gulf of Mexico instead of Gulf of America:

The White House barred a credentialed Associated Press reporter and photographer from boarding the presidential airplane Friday for a weekend trip with Donald Trump, saying the news agency’s stance on how to refer to the Gulf of Mexico was to blame for the exclusion. It represented a significant escalation by the White House in a four-day dispute with the AP over access to the presidency. 

AP reporters and photographers travel with the president virtually everywhere as part of a press “pool” and have for decades. AP journalism serves millions of readers and thousands of news outlets around the world.

Here is the real reason DJT banned the AP:


This is the face of irrational, vindictive American dictatorship under the deeply corrupt DJT and his MAGA.
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The letter I posted about yesterday from DoJ MAGA thug Emil Bove to federal prosecutor Danielle Sasson has really shaken me. To me that evidence is about as clear as possible of how blatantly corrupt, weaponized and politicized the DoJ now is. 

MAGA thug Bove

It blows me away that Bove justified dropping the DoJ's ongoing investigation and prosecution of New York City's corrupt mayor Eric Adams for political reasons. Bove's letter explicitly stated that the ongoing prosecution was “unduly limiting Mayor Adams' ability to focus entirely on the illegal immigration and violent crime that have escalated under the previous administration's policies. .... [prosecuting Adams amounts to] unacceptable threats to public safety, national security, and related federal immigration initiatives and policies.” 

The Adams case is removed from the U.S. attorney's office of the Southern District of New York and transferred to Washington, where it will be dismissed. On the day Bove sent his poison letter, five prosecutors in the Public Integrity unit there also resigned rather than drop the case. 

This is full-blown evisceration of a neutral rule of law in the federal government. Elite friends of DJT and MAGA are now free to commit white collar federal crimes with little to no risk of ever being prosecuted in federal courts.

This letter and some other things are leading me to reassess the human condition and American politics in major ways. I’m starting to that maybe think I’ve been rather blind and naive. 
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Elon Musk plans to reduce the federal work force by making conditions of their work crappy: DOGE looks to shrink the federal workforce by making buildings and commutes ‘so crappy’ that employees will quit, report says -- "Part of the Department of Government Efficiency's plan to slash spending and personnel is to boost attrition by depressing morale, sources told the Washington Post. To do that, up to half of the government's nonmilitary real estate will be liquidated, the report said, resulting in office closures and forcing workers to make longer commutes to comply with President Donald Trump's return-to-office mandate. "We’ve heard from them that they want to make the buildings so crappy that people will leave," a senior official at the General Services Administration, which manages federal property, told the Post. "I think that’s the larger goal here, which is bring everybody back, the buildings are going to suck, their commutes are going to suck.""
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From MAGA’s git ’er done files: Among things like Senate Republicans lying to the public as a major part of what they now do, a long Salon article reports about Senate GOP efforts to sanctify conspiracy theories. One planned item is a plan by MAGA crackpot and all around freak Laura Loomer to interview the attending physicians at President John F. Kennedy's deathbed. Thing is though, they’re all dead. Presumably the looney Loomer will find a channel or seer to interview the spirits of the dead folks. 






Friday, February 14, 2025

The State of Our Union...

 

I’m gonna pull a Germaine on everyone and give you a monster post.  Hey, turnabout’s fair play, my friend! 😜

A week or so back, one of our (ir)regulars here, Adam G. Yoksas, made an excellent point about the status quo of America.  It has to do with how the U.S. Society has become culturally and patriotically “fractured.”  Here’s an excerpt from one of Adam’s post:

Despite over two hundred years of effort, any attempt to give the Americans a common culture has failed. In fact, the longer that time goes on, the less Americans think of themselves as a people, but as peoples. What unites us is law, not culture. That Constitution is really the only thing that makes us a single people.

Without it, we become--at best--Italy during the Renaissance, a collection of small principalities, confederations, and oligarchies all vying for advantage, with mercenary inclinations. At worst, we become post-Yugoslavia, a chaotic mess of ethnic, religious, and cultural tribes that view one another with suspicion and even open hostility.

The only language that cuts across the cultures in America is the language of the Constitution, the debates over rights, limits, expressed and implied powers, ambition cheching ambition, freedoms and equalities. That these things exist "under the law" is assumed, given that there's no source available to grant us these things outside of the law of that Constitution. No king is going to guarantee them. No church is going to make a case for them. No deep cultural myths are there so that notions of justice can take root.

Only the Constitution keeps us together. It is far more essential to us than any other civilization before or since.

Now, for my thoughts.

As our U.S. melting pot grows more diverse with each passing decade, I suppose a “cultural and patriotic separation” was destined to happen. As a result, there become fewer and fewer “focal points” for the greater society to hang on to, other than our Constitutional system of laws.  I agree with Adam, we still do have those in common… at least for the moment.

I think it’s true, one’s heritage plays a big part in how we see each other.  For example, in Spain, indigenous people all consider themselves to be Spaniards. Or, in Greece, all indigenous people consider themselves to be Greeks.  But here in America, we don’t have that common ancestral heritage to cling to. (Btw, the Native American Indian would have something to say about that!!)  So while we may each, individually, revere our familial ancestry, as a group, there is no common “heritage bond” to hold us together, like in other countries. 

Still, I love our country’s diversity.  I think it can (and in theory should) make us stronger, in a lot of ways.  I think it could (and should) be that “shining city on the hill” model to help show the rest of the world “how it’s done,” or can be done.  But that’s not what’s happening; indeed, the opposite.  

Seems our familiarity and freedoms have instead bred contempt among our people.  Like with our personal families, we can and have gotten “too comfortable” like that.  But unlike with our families, where “kinship forgiveness” seems to have a way to survive the family discord, cultural differences tend to breed a kind of paranoia and take on the form of “otherness.”

Because we are all so different, with different values and from different ethnic backgrounds, it seems too many groups want to vie for some kind of dominance in the U.S. (or feel they must defend their perceived dominance (e.g., see Whites supremacy groups).  Every group seems to aspire to get to the top of the “alpha dog” totem pole; some groups more than others.  Some just want to live in peace and rather not get involved; at least for the moment, until they one day may have the numbers to back themselves.  In the meantime, they are just happy/grateful to be here to enjoy our cornucopia.

Personally, I think that alpha dog dominance is a lot of what the MAGA movement is about.  They call it Make America Great Again, but what they really mean is, Make American WASP-y Again… because they feel they are “losing dominance control.”  That’s what all the hullabaloo is about with illegal immigration.  And, don’t get me wrong. I agree there has to be some kind of immigration controls.  I understand that too.

Okay, now for the questions:

  1. Do you agree that America has become a fractured society in the ways I’ve mentioned?  If you disagree, give your reasoning.

  2. As Adam Yoksas surmised, is the Constitution now the only “glue” that holds us together?

  3. What can make the U.S. an e pluribus unum (“out of many, one”) country again?  What is it going to take?

    1. I had suggested mandatory paid community service of some kind, say two years right out of high school, and not many here agreed with that.  They didn’t like the idea of the government controlling people in that way (even though I think it would be for our own long-term good).

    2. Is some sort of innate “human decency” a contender for bringing the US together?  Or is that kind of caring/compassion a thing of the past?  Or has paranoia and suspicion taken over a majority of us and we can’t trust anyone anymore.  Has human decency reached a low point of no return, thanks to distrust and paranoia? 

    3. [Your e pluribus unum suggestion(s) here]

  4. Is the true (root) problem here that “division is just the nature of diversity?”  In other words, a built-in problem/condition that’s never going away?

Take your time and think about it, even into the weekend. 😉😁

(by PrimalSoup)