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DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Saturday, July 23, 2022

To defend the indefensible and itself, the Pentagon lied to the congress and the American people

This is based on a comment PD made earlier this morning. It makes an important point about what the Pentagon did not do during T****’s 1/6 coup attempt. PD wrote: 
Other missing evidence from that day includes Trump's phone logs, the now-controversial "missing texts" of the Secret Service (again, there are competing stories about what happened that day in Trump's car), WH records during the crucial hours of 1/6 including photographs and diary entries that go blank for over 3 hours, et al. For context on the Pentagon lying about Flynn even being on the phone until Jan 20, 2021 when they admitted it, consider that his brother Michael was then, and still is, openly advocating for a coup, declaration of martial law and use of the army to keep Trump in power. Before that, he had advised Trump to order the military to seize voting machines. Whether or not Charles Flynn shares any of his brother's views or not is a speculative matter-- but if the Army had to lie about it, something seems wrong. Especially in light of the 2 testifying National Guard leaders on the phone saying he and Piatt refused to green-light the deployment of the Guard and then lied about it.
He cites this 7 minute video interview with a Politico reporter, Betsy Swan. She pieced the Pentagon’s lie together and reported about it. In her December 2021 Politico article, ‘Absolute liars’: Ex-D.C. Guard official says generals lied to Congress about Jan. 6, describes a terrifying story about how mendacious, morally rotted and anti-democratic the Pentagon had become under T****.




In a 36-page memo, Col. Earl Matthews, who held high-level National Security Council and Pentagon roles during the Trump administration, slams the Pentagon’s inspector general for what he calls an error-riddled report that protects a top Army official who argued against sending the National Guard to the Capitol on Jan. 6, delaying the insurrection response for hours.

Matthews’ memo, sent to the Jan. 6 select committee this month and obtained by POLITICO, includes detailed recollections of the insurrection response as it calls two Army generals — Gen. Charles Flynn, who served as deputy chief of staff for operations on Jan. 6, and Lt. Gen. Walter Piatt, the director of Army staff — “absolute and unmitigated liars” for their characterization of the events of that day. Matthews has never publicly discussed the chaos of the Capitol siege.

“Every leader in the D.C. Guard wanted to respond and knew they could respond to the riot at the seat of government” before they were given clearance to do so on Jan. 6, Matthews’ memo reads. Instead, he said, D.C. guard officials “set [sic] stunned watching in the Armory” during the first hours of the attack on Congress during its certification of the 2020 election results.
This helps add context to what happened during those three hours on 1/6. While T**** was refusing to act to stop the ongoing coup attempt, the Pentagon was doing the exact same thing. That non-action can reasonably be called committing treason.


Qs: Who has more credibility here, the Pentagon's Gen. Flynn and Gen. Piatt and their claims of innocence, or former D.C. National Guard official Col. Matthews and his assertion they lied and committed perjury? What are the odds that Merrick Garland will prosecute any Pentagon general for perjury, 0%, ~1%, ~10%, higher? What are the odds that the Secretary of Defense will fire Flynn or Piatt? 

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