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Wednesday, May 21, 2025

MAGA elites corrupt inconvenient intelligence analysis; Analyzing MAGA’s intelligence priorities

The NYT reports about corruption of competent US intelligence assessments by treasonous MAGA thugs to bring them into alignment with the false realities that djt falsely tells us is real reality: “Official Pushed to Rewrite Intelligence So It Could Not Be ‘Used Against’ Trump -- An assessment contradicted a presidential proclamation. A political appointee demanded a redo, then pushed for changes to the new analysis, too. New emails document how a top aide to Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, ordered analysts to edit an assessment with the hope of insulating President Trump and Ms. Gabbard from being attacked for the administration’s claim that Venezuela’s government controls a criminal gang. “We need to do some rewriting” and more analytic work “so this document is not used against the DNI or POTUS,” Joe Kent, the chief of staff to Ms. Gabbard, wrote in an email to a group of intelligence officials on April 3, using shorthand for Ms. Gabbard’s position and for [djt].”

Treasonous MAGA thug Joe Kent - subverting 
US intelligence, betraying US national security
and enabling Constitution and rule of law
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Pxy in Deep Research mode:
Q3: Take a broader view of Gabbard and alleged intelligence community bias against Trump and anything else. Consider the goals and tactics of MAGA elites and Trump, including Project 2025, illegal actions since Trump took power in Jan. 2025, and the constant mendacity and bad faith rhetoric and actions of MAGA elites. You concluded that “Gabbard’s supporters base their claims on contested historical examples of alleged bias, which they argue justify her reforms. Whether these examples constitute “unreasonable” politicization depends on partisan interpretation.” Yes, contested historical examples are in play because there are no uncontested historical examples that MAGA elites can use to justify what they are doing.

A3: The debate over Tulsi Gabbard’s leadership of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) and allegations of intelligence community (IC) bias against Donald Trump cannot be divorced from the broader ideological and operational framework of the MAGA movement. Central to this framework is Project 2025, a Heritage Foundation-led initiative to consolidate executive power, purge nonpartisan institutions of perceived liberal bias, and align federal agencies with Trump’s political agenda. Gabbard’s reforms—including personnel dismissals, restructuring of intelligence workflows, and the elimination of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs—reflect this agenda, which critics argue prioritizes loyalty over expertise and amplifies partisan narratives over objective analysis.

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Project 2025’s Blueprint for Intelligence Politicization
Project 2025’s 920-page Mandate for Leadership explicitly calls for restructuring the IC to ensure loyalty to the president. Key proposals include:

Centralizing Control Under the DNI: The DNI should “implement the President’s intelligence priorities” by dismantling bureaucratic “guardrails” that ensure analytical independence 1 3 18.

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Conclusion: The Erosion of Apolitical Intelligence
Gabbard’s tenure as DNI exemplifies the MAGA movement’s broader assault on institutional independence. By framing contested historical incidents as evidence of systemic bias, Project 2025’s architects justify reforms that subordinate intelligence analysis to political objectives. The consequences are already apparent: the dismissal of seasoned analysts, the marginalization of dissenting views, and the erosion of public trust.

As Stephen Marrin, a former CIA analyst, warned: “When policymakers punish messengers for inconvenient truths, they undermine the IC’s reason for existing” 8. The integrity of U.S. intelligence now hinges on resisting this ideological capture—a challenge that transcends partisan politics and strikes at the heart of democratic accountability.
This is more evidence of blatant MAGA authoritarian intent and a shocking disregard for American national security.

Q1: Are criticisms of authoritarianism and anti-Americanism by MAGA elites reasonably grounded in facts and sound reasoning, or is it mostly a matter of unreasonable partisanship grounded in lies and crackpottery? 

Q2: If criticisms of authoritarianism and anti-Americanism by MAGA elites is mostly a matter of unreasonable partisanship grounded in lies and crackpottery, then (1) exactly what is the partisan group or ideology, and (2) exactly what is crackpot about the criticisms?

(I really want to pin down and understand the bad partisanship and bad reasoning that is sometimes alleged about reasoning and evidence like this OP presents and my politics generally)