Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Friday, May 30, 2025

Update: Exposing the deep state

An AP article reports about supporters of djt becoming impatient about seeing the evidence of all the crimes and evil of the deep state that he promised to make public: "Trump has long warned of a government ‘deep state.’ Now in power, he’s under pressure to expose it -- As he crisscrossed the country in 2024, Donald Trump pledged to supporters that voting him back into the presidency would be “our final battle.” “With you at my side, we will demolish the deep state,” he said repeatedly on the campaign trail. “We will liberate our country from these tyrants and villains once and for all.” Some who take him at his word are beginning to get restless as they ask why his administration, which holds the keys to chasing down these alleged government secrets, is denying them the evidence and retribution they expected. .... His Justice Department has not yet arrested hordes of “deep state” actors as some of his supporters had hoped it would, even as the president has been posting cryptic videos and memes about Democratic politicians. “People are tired of not knowing,” conservative commentator Damani Felder said on podcaster Tim Pool’s show last week. “We actually demand answers and real transparency. It’s not that hard to deliver.” "

The AP article points out that impatience with exposing the deep state became evident after FBI Director Kash Patel dismissed two of the unsubstantiated conspiracy theories that have fired up the base the most. One was that financier and sexual abuser Jeffrey Epstein was murdered in a cover-up (he committed suicide). The other was the assassination attempt in Butler Pennsylvania was a government plot (it wasn't). 

According to djt, the deep state is a secret network of powerful people manipulating government decisions behind the scenes for nefarious or corrupt reasons. That argument helped build his base of support. His supporters expect steps to be taken against people djt claimed were involved in sinister plots against him, such as former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and former FBI Director James Comey. The administration also hasn’t offered proof of the “egregious crimes ” that djt claims corrupted the federal government for years. Egregious crimes ought to be pretty easy to ferret out now that loyal MAGA elites are in power and calling the shots.

Maybe the reasons that djt and MAGA elites have not yet exposed and arrested the deep state villains is that (1) very few exist, if any, and (2) there never was a deep state. Maybe some government employees who are corrupt can be found and plausibly accused of deep state evil. That will probably suffice to prove the existence of corrupt tyranny in government for some supporters. Time will tell how this plays out.


Q: How likely is it that djt and MAGA elites will ferret out a major deep state and prove its existence to the satisfaction of most djt voters and supporters?