Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Wednesday, July 16, 2025

A MAGA-Trump cost benefit analysis

A cost-benefit assessment seemed to be in order, now that some of the fog has cleared. The full Q&A is at this link. The question included fact checking and debiasing instructions to reduce the error rate in the response.
Q: Make a reasonable estimate of the effects or cost-benefit that Trump and MAGA politics and policies have resulted in related to the US economy, American society and American interests globally. Consider impacts on federal research, public health, democracy, the rule of law, civil liberties, technology (green energy efforts, etc.), the environment, social civility, economic and environmental sustainability, higher education, ....

A: Long analysis summarized:

Economic Impact
Negative Economic Effects - Medium to High Confidence

Federal Research and Public Health
Severe Negative Impact - High Confidence

Democracy and Rule of Law
Severe Negative Impact - High Confidence

Civil Liberties and Free Speech
Severe Negative Impact - High Confidence


Environment and Climate Change
Severe Negative Impact - High Confidence

Higher Education and Academic Freedom
Severe Negative Impact - High Confidence

Technology and Innovation
Negative Impact - Medium to High Confidence
(that feels like an underestimate)

Wealth Distribution and Oligarchy
Severe Negative Impact - High Confidence
Is anyone sensing a pattern here? 
Social Civility and Polarization
Severe Negative Impact - High Confidence

Media and Information Environment
Severe Negative Impact - High Confidence

Christian Nationalism and Theocracy
Severe Long-term Risk - Medium to High Confidence

Assessment of Democratic Survival
Likelihood of Authoritarian Transformation by 2029: Medium to High Risk

Conclusion
The evidence suggests that Trump and MAGA politics have imposed significant costs on American society, economy, and democratic institutions while providing limited benefits primarily to wealthy elites and certain traditional energy sectors. The risk of authoritarian transformation is substantial, with multiple democratic safeguards already compromised. The likelihood of replacing secular democracy with a corrupt autocracy tinged with Christian nationalism appears to be moderate to high, particularly given the weakness of institutional opposition and the Democratic Party's structural problems.
Welp, that's sobering. Most Trump and MAGA supporters would very likely at least vigorously disagree with that assessment and reject it out of hand. And that is where America is today.