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Wednesday, August 14, 2019
The Anti-Bias Ideology Revisited
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist. Philosopher Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Intolerance is almost inevitably accompanied by a natural and true inability to comprehend or make allowance for opposite points of view. . . . We find here with significant uniformity what one psychologist has called ‘logic-proof compartments.’ The logic-proof compartment has always been with us. Master propagandist Edward Bernays, Crystallizing Public Opinion, 1923
Ever since college I have been a libertarian—socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I believe in individual liberty and personal responsibility. I also believe in science as the greatest instrument ever devised for understanding the world. So what happens when these two principles are in conflict? My libertarian beliefs have not always served me well. Like most people who hold strong ideological convictions, I find that, too often, my beliefs trump the scientific facts. This is called motivated reasoning, in which our brain reasons our way to supporting what we want to be true. . . . . My libertarianism also once clouded my analysis of climate change. I was a longtime skeptic, mainly because it seemed to me that liberals were exaggerating the case for global warming as a kind of secular millenarianism—an environmental apocalypse requiring drastic government action to save us from doomsday through countless regulations that would handcuff the economy and restrain capitalism, which I hold to be the greatest enemy of poverty. Then I went to the primary scientific literature on climate and discovered . . . . [that anthropogenic climate change is real]. Libertarian Michael Shermer describing his epiphany about the power of his ideology exerted to unconsciously distort objective truth and the conscious reason he applied to facts and evidence he thought he was seeing
. . . . the typical citizen drops down to a lower level of mental performance as soon as he enters the political field. He argues and analyzes in a way which he would readily recognize as infantile within the sphere of his real interests. . . . cherished ideas and judgments we bring to politics are stereotypes and simplifications with little room for adjustment as the facts change. . . . . the real environment is altogether too big, too complex, and too fleeting for direct acquaintance. We are not equipped to deal with so much subtlety, so much variety, so many permutations and combinations. Although we have to act in that environment, we have to reconstruct it on a simpler model before we can manage it. Social scientists Christopher Achen and Larry Bartels, Democracy for Realists: Why Elections Do Not Produce Responsive Government, 2016
We found ourselves at the end of chapter 3 with a dystopian assessment of democracy, an apparent ill-suited match between the mental apparatus of the public and the high-minded requirements of democracy: People should be well informed about politically important matters, but they are not. People should think rationally, but they most often do not. Political psychologist George Marcus, Political Psychology: Neuroscience, Genetics, and Politics, 2013
The success or failures of ideas depends on what they contribute to the robust experience of human life. We may generate the ideas, but reality decides if they are any good. Political psychologist George Marcus, Political Psychology: Neuroscience, Genetics, and Politics, 2013
I confess that I do not entirely approve this Constitution at present, but Sir, I am not sure I shall never approve it. . . . In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its Faults, if they are such; because I think a General Government is necessary for us. . . . . I doubt too whether any other Convention we can obtain, may be able to make a better Constitution. . . . . It therefore astonishes me, Sir, to find this System approaching so near to Perfection as it does; and I think it will astonish our Enemies, who are waiting with confidence to hear how our Councils are Confounded, like those of the Builders of Babel, and that our States are on the Point of Separation, only to meet, hereafter, for the purposes of cutting one another's throats. Thus I consent, Sir, to this Constitution because I expect no better, and I am not sure that it is not the best. Benjamin Franklin, stating his consent to the new US Constitution, 1787
CONTEXT: From time to time, B&B and its predecessor site, Dissident Politics, discusses or explains the main concept this channel advocates as the core of a social engineering experiment. That concept amounts to an objective, pragmatic or anti-bias political ideology designed to reduce bias and distortion of conscious reason or logic and perceptions of reality and facts that normally arise from human cognition and from social influences. Distorting cognitive and social influences are reflections of the human evolutionary heritage and cannot be completely eliminated.
Prior discussions of the anti-bias or ‘pragmatic rationalist-realist’ ideology, or parts thereof, are here (https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-biopoliticsandbionews/pragmatic_ideology_a_12_point_explanation/ ), here (https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-biopoliticsandbionews/a_pragmatic_ideology/ ), here (http://dispol.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-pubic-interest-defined.html ), here (http://dispol.blogspot.com/2015/02/why-non-ideological-fact-and-reason.html ), here (https://ivn.us/2015/12/04/save-public-interest-two-party-politics/ ), here (http://dispol.blogspot.com/2015/08/objective-politics-criticisms-and.html ), and here (https://ivn.us/2015/09/24/opinion-two-party-politics-fails-serve-public-interest/ ). Criticisms of the rationalist or ‘objective’ ideology and rebuttals are here (http://dispol.blogspot.com/2015/08/objective-politics-criticisms-and.html ).
The anti-bias political ideology: The original anti-bias ideology conception posited three necessary core (highest) moral values or principles, (1) fidelity to trying to find and see facts and truth with less bias, (2) applying conscious effort to be less biased or partisan in thinking about the facts and truths we think we see, both of which are focused on (3) an ‘objective’ vision of service to the public interest, based on the idea of a transparent, fact- and logic-based competition among competing interests and ideas. Those three moral values are envisioned to better connect politics with reality and reason.
More recently, a fourth core moral value, willingness to reasonably compromise, became apparent as necessary for the ideology. The rationale for the compromise moral is simple: One can try to be more objective or rational about politics, but if there is no realistic political basis to apply it, there is no point in trying to rationalize politics at all. Unless political power is concentrated on one side, some degree of compromise is usually necessary. The ‘Faults’ Franklin referred to in his statement of consent included the bitterly contested compromises necessary for the Constitution to come into existence.
Underlying assumptions: The biological and social basis for an anti-bias ideology is grounded in a number of assumptions. First, bias, distortion and irrationality in politics arises mostly from a combination of normal innate mental or cognitive processes and from social institutions, customs and norms. It is possible that human thinking and intelligence could have evolved differently such that biological and social influences were less irrational and reality-distorting, but that is not the reality of the human condition.
Second, there is an urgent need for politics that is generally less subjective and more objective relative to what it is now, at least in America at this time. That assumes that more objectivity will lead to more peaceful and more sustainable policies and social outcomes in the long run compared to the situation now. Politics gone bad, as it has in America today, is a potential existential threat to civilization and the human species.
Third, it is clear from recorded and modern history that playing on normal human cognitive processes and relevant social contexts is a major pathway to power for authoritarians, tyrants, kleptocrats, oligarchs and other ‘bad leaders’. Bad leaders invariably intentionally manipulate human emotions and work ruthlessly to obliterate distinctions between fact and fiction, true and false and sound reasoning and incoherent partisan reasoning (drivel) to the extent they can do so. Bad leaders need to do that to foster social divisions and intolerance. By fostering unwarranted emotions, bad leaders dampen people’s recourse to conscious reason. Fear, anger, hate, racism, intolerance and other negative feelings tend to dampen conscious reason while increasing the mind’s susceptibility to lies, deceit and incoherent reason. Propagandists and bad leaders have been aware of the effectiveness of such tactics for millennia, even though science had not caught up with and started applying empirical data to explain the power of deceit and emotional manipulation phenomena until recently.
Fourth, for long-term human survival (millions of years) and well-being, the concept of service to the public interest is a highly pro-self and pro-civil society moral force or moral belief. It is something the human species can strive to adopt, implement and live by. That said, conceptions of the public interest always have been and probably always will be heavily biased and distorted by narrower economic, social and ideological interests. Conflicts are unavoidable. Special interests will fight for their interests. That is an unavoidable aspect of being human. Bad leaders can use brute force to resolve disagreements, but compromise among competing interests is the best way to resolve dispute with a minimum of coercion.
Fifth, looking at politics leads to an inescapable conclusion that, for the most part, civilized liberal democratic politics is ‘made of’ perceived facts and truths, which can be true, false or ambiguous, unconscious thinking and to a smaller extent, conscious thinking (roughly, reason), some conception of self and/or society the facts and thinking is designed to serve in some way, and compromises when there is significant disagreement. By focusing to two key components, facts and logic, it should be possible to partially rationalize politics and somewhat narrow the bases for intractable disagreements by draining some of the emotion and false reality from the process. Also, for people who believe in a need for at least some degree of compromise in many situations, that moral value arguably will sometimes help some people approach political issues with a more open mindset.
Service to the public interest: This concept is the most complicated of the four moral concepts. Although there will be disagreements about all four morals, the public interest is impossible to pin down in precise terms. Disagreement is inherent in the concept. All four concepts are going to be contested to an extent that will vary with specific circumstances. That is an inevitable consequence of the human condition.
One conception of service to the public interest envisions it as trying to see and employ less biased facts and reality, and less biased (partisan) logic to assess and implement competing ideas for governance in a transparent competition that balances considerations of efficiency, freedoms and fairness among competing individual, public, private, national, social, global and environmental interests to the extent that relevant circumstances can sustainably support for the long run. It amounts to a more transparent, more honest merit-based competition of ideas than is at play now. Clearly, more complex articulations of the concept are possible.[1]
Can it ever work?: Some major obstacles are obvious. One is human cognitive biology and social behavior. Past efforts to make politics more objective have all failed. Why would this concept fare any better? The main difference between now and the past is the new empirical knowledge of the biological and social bases from which irrationality and uncivil and ineffective politics flow. Two considerations suggest that partial rationalization is possible at least in theory. The first is evidence that some people naturally are more rational about their approach to the world and those people can be taught to get better. Maybe that can translate to whole societies and nations. The second is the fact that if a social institution in support of anti-bias as a social value can be built, it would be expected to exert a powerful motivating influence on perceptions of reality, thinking and behavior just like other social institutions do now and always have.
Another major obstacle is constitutionally protected dark free speech (DFS). DFS includes lies, deceit, unwarranted emotional manipulation, mainly fomenting unwarranted fear, anger, hate, intolerance, racism and other polarizing and reason-killing states of mind. The power of dark free speech to de-rationalize politics has been amplified by social media and the rise of relentless propaganda attacks on the American people by enemy states including Russia and China. On top of ruthless external enemies, there are ruthless internal interests who are hostile to the idea of citizens being better able to defend themselves by adopting an anti-bias moral mindset that is inherently hostile to DFS.
Hostile domestic interests include (1) President Trump and the Trump brand of the republican party, (2) authoritarians and kleptocrats of all political beliefs, (3) most of the business community that at least significantly relies on propaganda and opacity to manipulate the public, while buying favors from the two-party system, (4) political and religious ideologues who see ideological or moral threat in fact- and reason-based rationality, and (5) America’s two-party system itself, which has repeatedly employed DFS against the public just as ruthlessly as America’s external enemies.
The only apparent defense against DFS that could be at least partially effective is adopting an anti-bias moral mindset. To a significant extent, that mindset will neutralize ideological extremism and undue special interest influence because ideological fantasy and narrow influence is more difficult to sustain when facts and logic are contradictory.
Another concern is that, even if the anti-bias mindset does gain public acceptance and come to exert significant political power on the national level for an extended period of time, would it work well enough to actually make a detectable difference for the better? There is no way to know that in advance. One can argue that it is reasonable to think that more rational politics ought to be better than less rational. Nonetheless, that is just a hypothesis. There appears to be no empirical evidence for this based on nations operating with an anti-bias political mindset.[2] There is only limited experimental data that seems to suggest some measure of success would flow from pro-rational politics.
If nothing else, the sources and intensity of opposition to an anti-bias moral mindset reflect politics that operate with completely different morals and political agendas. Among other things, anti-bias is focused on a more civil, equitable, sustainable world than the goals the opposition strives for. That argues the moral superiority of anti-bias morals compared to the competition. That aside, the open question is will reality decide that the anti-bias moral mindset is good and it survives and grows or it is bad and it remains obscure.
Footnotes:
1. Service to the public interest means governance based on identifying a rational, optimum balance between serving public, individual and commercial interests based on an objective, fact- and logic-based analysis of competing policy choices, while (1) being reasonably transparent and responsive to public opinion, (2) protecting and growing the American economy, (3) fostering individual economic and personal growth opportunity, (4) defending personal freedoms and the American standard of living, (5) protecting national security and the environment, (6) increasing transparency, competition and efficiency in commerce when possible, and (7) fostering global peace, stability and prosperity whenever reasonably possible, all of which is constrained by (i) honest, reality-based fiscal sustainability that limits the scope and size of government and regulation to no more or less than what is needed and (ii) respect for the U.S. constitution and the rule of law with a particular concern for limiting unwarranted legal complexity and ambiguity to limit opportunities to subvert the constitution and the law.
2. A caveat is that some modern nations may be operating on politics that are close enough to the anti-bias ideology to constitute real world evidence of success or failure. It is also possible that some nations or societies in the past operated similarly. In either case, there could be some probative evidence about an anti-bias mindset or something closer to it than what passes for politics now. One thing that is certain on this point is that the concept has not been tested with modern America under its current circumstances. That alone arguably constitutes a separate, unique social engineering experiment.
B&B orig: 12/2/18
Partisan Ideology Wrecks Reason: An Example
A New York Times article today nicely illustrates the power of partisan, bias-based ideology to trash conscious reason but still be used as support for false beliefs. Regarding the CIA investigation of the Saudi murder of US-based reporter Jamal Khashoggi as ordered by the murdering goon Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman, the NYT writes:
“Mr. Graham [ Senator Lindsey Graham - R-SC] had initially threatened to withhold support for legislative priorities until he was briefed by Ms. Haspel. He said on Tuesday that it was clear Mr. Pompeo and Mr. Mattis were being ‘good soldiers’ for the White House when they briefed senators last week.
But he also called their assessments misleading, and alluded to Mr. Mattis’s insistence that American officials had seen ‘no smoking gun’ to indicate Prince Mohammed was to blame in Mr. Khashoggi’s killing.
‘There is not a smoking gun, there’s a smoking saw,’ Mr. Graham said.
‘You have to be willfully blind’ not to see it, he said.”
The situation is simple and clear. Graham characterizes Pompeo and Mattis, as ‘good soldiers’ who are willfully blind in their support of President Trump. Graham also says there is not a smoking gun, but there is a smoking saw referring to the bone saw the goons that Mohammed bin Salman ordered to murder Mr. Khashoggi used in his murder.
How can good soldiers possibly be willfully blind? Isn't willful blindness evidence of an incompetent and/or stupid soldier? That happens when the person expressing that kind of irrational drivel, Senator Graham, puts partisan advantage over the good of the country and the truth. That mindset directly reflects the current republican and populist view that partisan advantage is a higher moral value than service to the public interest. With that corrupt, incompetent mindset, any non-trivial sign of partisan loyalty absolves partisan crooks, liars and traitors of any significant criticism, much less any professional or criminal liability, for betraying the public interest in favor of republican partisan interest.
By now, this is just routine Trump brand politics under the immoral, corrupt, incompetent liar Trump and his now cowed into stupid submission political party called the GOP.
Or, is that too harsh an assessment? Is Senator Graham an insightful patriot fighting for the American people and the public interest? Did Mattis and Pompeo just make an honest mistake or are they corrupt ideologues who hold partisan advantage a higher moral value than service to the public interest and the truth?
In a liberal democracy like America, do political means, e.g., lies, blind stupidity, blind loyalty, etc., justify the ends?
B&B orig: 12/5/18
Analysis of single-stimulus measurement of animal-reminder disgust reliably differentiated between conservatives and liberals
Author Rob Smith
I expect this thread reprises material from a study that Germaine has already presented. The study is entitled Nonpolitical Images Evoke Neural Predictors of Political Ideology.
The images used to evoke animal-reminder-disgust were body mutilation images.
Analysis of MRIs showing areas of brain activation, when subjects were shown body mutilation images, was able to reliably distinguish between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives were found to respond to mutilation images in ways that increased activation in areas of the brain that have been found in previous studies to correspond to increased negative affective valence.
One thing I find of interest is the strong association that two "hot button" political issues, gun control and abortion, have with "body mutilation".
The first thing I notice here is that neither liberals nor conservatives are consistently seeking to lessen or prevent body mutilation in their positions on these issues. So there is not a simple, "Conservatives seek to lessen body mutilation and liberals are OK with it" response, or the reverse, happening.
I am wondering if other issues directly associated with body-mutilation have also been "hot button" political issues in the past. Or whether the apparent links between the political issues of gun control and abortion and animal-reminder-disgust are actually coincidental.
Some other political issues that might directly intersect with body mutilation would appear to be; compulsory car seat-belt, motorcycle and cycling helmet legislation, traffic safety regulations, especially speed limits, industrial safety legislation, declaration of war and commitment of soldiers to armed conflict, militarization of police forces, readiness of police to use deadly force, laws protecting pedestrians from vehicular traffic, restrictions on walkers accessing areas containing large carnivores, air safety regulations, regulation of the training and practice of surgery, regulation of patient safety in hospitals, nursing and aged care facilities, & regulation of prisoner safety in detention facilities.
Looking at this this it appears that many issues included are not "hot button" ones but are rather seen as of being low priority/low importance.
Clearly this is a very informal exploration that just scratches the topic. But there is some indication that the possibility of body mutilation in real life is insufficient by itself to have an issue become a "hot button" political issue.
If others want to add more political issues that intersect with body mutilation in real life, or give an alternative analysis of the data and experiment then please do so.
B&B orig: 12/6/18
I expect this thread reprises material from a study that Germaine has already presented. The study is entitled Nonpolitical Images Evoke Neural Predictors of Political Ideology.
The images used to evoke animal-reminder-disgust were body mutilation images.
Analysis of MRIs showing areas of brain activation, when subjects were shown body mutilation images, was able to reliably distinguish between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives were found to respond to mutilation images in ways that increased activation in areas of the brain that have been found in previous studies to correspond to increased negative affective valence.
One thing I find of interest is the strong association that two "hot button" political issues, gun control and abortion, have with "body mutilation".
The first thing I notice here is that neither liberals nor conservatives are consistently seeking to lessen or prevent body mutilation in their positions on these issues. So there is not a simple, "Conservatives seek to lessen body mutilation and liberals are OK with it" response, or the reverse, happening.
I am wondering if other issues directly associated with body-mutilation have also been "hot button" political issues in the past. Or whether the apparent links between the political issues of gun control and abortion and animal-reminder-disgust are actually coincidental.
Some other political issues that might directly intersect with body mutilation would appear to be; compulsory car seat-belt, motorcycle and cycling helmet legislation, traffic safety regulations, especially speed limits, industrial safety legislation, declaration of war and commitment of soldiers to armed conflict, militarization of police forces, readiness of police to use deadly force, laws protecting pedestrians from vehicular traffic, restrictions on walkers accessing areas containing large carnivores, air safety regulations, regulation of the training and practice of surgery, regulation of patient safety in hospitals, nursing and aged care facilities, & regulation of prisoner safety in detention facilities.
Looking at this this it appears that many issues included are not "hot button" ones but are rather seen as of being low priority/low importance.
Clearly this is a very informal exploration that just scratches the topic. But there is some indication that the possibility of body mutilation in real life is insufficient by itself to have an issue become a "hot button" political issue.
If others want to add more political issues that intersect with body mutilation in real life, or give an alternative analysis of the data and experiment then please do so.
B&B orig: 12/6/18
Personal Morals vs Social Context: A Science of Politics Paradox?
“I do not myself believe that many people do things because they think they are the right thing to do . . . . I do not think that knowledge of what is morally right is motivational in any serious sense for anyone except a handful of saints.” Richard Posner commenting about the influence of social context (society) on personal morals from his point of view as a US federal judge
Society not only controls our movements, but shapes our identity, our thought, and our emotions. . . . . [in large part social institutions are] structures of our own consciousness. Sociologist Peter Berger commenting on the power of social institutions to shape perceptions of reality and how we think about what we think we see
Republicans understand moral psychology. Democrats don’t. Republicans have long understood that the elephant is in charge of political behavior, not the rider, and they know how elephants work. Their slogans, political commercials and speeches go straight for the gut . . . . Republicans don’t just aim to cause fear, as some Democrats charge. They trigger the full range of intuitions described by Moral Foundations Theory. Psychologist Johnathan Haidt commenting on the basis for political thinking in the context of the individual
The foregoing observations raise the question about where the balance of power in the human mind resides. Are we mostly individual, independent thinkers, or are we mostly social creatures who see and act as members of the herd who usually go with the herd?
The debate dates back to Plato (we're members of the herd) and Aristotle (we're independent). The dispute underpins a debate about governance that dates at least back to Plato and Aristotle and continues today. The modern debate pits belief that authoritarian rule is best (Plato's choice) against belief that democratic rule is best (Aristotle's choice). In modern America, that more or less boils down to support for populist rulers like President Trump versus support for democratic norms, e.g., respect for truth and a free press, that existed in the US until Trump crushed them.
What is more influential, personal morals and thinking, or social influences? If we are Plato's herd creatures, he argued that benevolent authoritarian rule would be best because the herd is a spooky, emotional thing that is easily spooked and provoked into unwarranted fear, anger, hate and so forth. If Trump really is an example of an authoritarian, he appears to be a corrupt, not benevolent (virtuous) kind of authoritarian that Plato tried to argue against.
On the other hand, the malicious or corrupt 'Trump type' is probably part of what drove Aristotle to reject authoritarianism in favor of democracy. Of course, the problem with that is that Trump was sort of democratically elected. That shows the weakness in Aristotle's reasoning -- democracies can be corrupt. Authoritarian regimes can rise by persuading people to support a strong man. Complicating this for Trump is illegal Russian influence. Trump might have been a truly legitimate president, and that cloud of contention would would not be hanging over him and his presidency. Enough American voters in 2016 saw more good than bad in Trump and they (with Russia) helped elect a bad leader.
Is there a conflict between Haidt's conception of how the mind works with politics and the social creature conception expressed by Posner and Berger? Are we social sheeple or independent thinkers? Given how modern science sees this, there arguably is no significant conflict because both personal and social influences can and probably usually do operate simultaneously most or all of the time. That said, existing evidence suggests that most people are more influenced by social context and social identity than pure individual perceptions of reality and thinking.
That assessment makes sense because, if nothing else, doing all the thinking for one's self imposes a very high cognitive load. It is literally impossible to think everything through as an individual. Reliance on the herd helps to reduce the cognitive load to something semi-manageable. This isn't a matter of human stupidity. It is a matter of limited innate human cognitive data processing power that has to operate in an ocean of dark free speech intended to mislead, deceive and emotionally manipulate.
Was the situation about the same in ancient times? Probably. Human traits and temperaments do not seem to have changed much since Plato and Aristotle debated. They clearly saw and understood liars, deceivers, brutes and blowhards making runs for power. They tried to figure ways to avoid bad leadership through government structures intended to block bad governance. They wound up at odds. Since then no solution to the bad leader problem has been found.
There may be no full solution, because the problem is innate to human cognitive biology and social behavior. Maybe the best the species can do is to design a partial solution where government structure makes it hard for bad leaders to do bad things and almost impossible to do very bad things. If nothing else, it looks like building consensus for a better form of government will have to take account of individual and social influences because both are relevant.
B&B orig: 12/7/18
Former Trump Administration Official: Trump Wants to Commit Illegal Acts
The Washington Post and other sources are commenting that former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has commented on President Trump's character. WaPO writes in its article entitled Rex Tillerson on Trump: ‘Undisciplined, doesn’t like to read’ and tries to do illegal things:
“The fired secretary of state, who while in office reportedly called Trump a ‘moron’ (and declined to deny it), expounded on his thoughts on the president in a rare interview with CBS News’s Bob Schieffer in Houston.
It wasn’t difficult to read between the lines. Tillerson said Trump is ‘pretty undisciplined, doesn’t like to read’ and repeatedly attempted to do illegal things.
‘What was challenging for me coming from the disciplined, highly process-oriented ExxonMobil corporation,’ Tillerson said, was ‘to go to work for a man who is pretty undisciplined, doesn’t like to read, doesn’t read briefing reports, doesn’t like to get into the details of a lot of things, but rather just kind of says, ‘This is what I believe.’
‘He acts on his instincts; in some respects, that looks like impulsiveness,’ Tillerson said. ‘But it’s not his intent to act on impulse. I think he really is trying to act on his instincts.’
‘I will be honest with you: It troubles me that the American people seem to want to know so little about issues — that they are satisfied with 128 characters,’ Tillerson said.
He was quick to say that that wasn’t meant as a shot at Trump but our political system more broadly. Next to his other comments, though, it wasn’t difficult to see he was lumping Trump with all those Americans who aren’t intellectually curious enough about policy and the actual details of U.S. government.”
Two points merit comment. First, Tillerson is far too generous in arguing that Trump isn’t being impulsive, but instead says he isn’t trying to be impulsive. That is pure baloney. Trump does not care if he is impulsive, crude, vulgar or anything other than what he wants to be in each moment. In that regard, Tillerson seriously misreads the man he worked for.
Second, this reporting points to the possibility that although not all Trump appointed officials are utterly corrupt, Trump will weed less corrupt out and replace them with the more corrupt. That is cause for profound concern.
And, of course, Trump hits back with Trump brand blither. He Tweeted today that Tillerson is as “dumb as a rock,” was “lazy as hell” and “didn't have the mental capacity needed” as the nation's top diplomat.
There is a whole lot of projecting going on in Trump’s Tweets. They accurately describe Trump himself on those points, lazy and dumb.
Or, is that too harsh an assessment? If so, why?
As of September 2, 2018, Trump has visited his golf courses on 25% of his 590 days in office. That dwarfs prior presidents play time and it does not include hundreds of hours of Trump’s ‘executive time’ watching TV, Tweeting on people and just plain farting around like the clueless, uncaring boob that he is.
B&B orig: 12/7/18
A New Category of Lie: The Bottomless Pinocchio
Trump’s 14 Bottomless Pinocchio lies
The Washington Post fact checker has instituted a new category of political lie. WaPo writes:
“Trump’s willingness to constantly repeat false claims has posed a unique challenge to fact-checkers. Most politicians quickly drop a Four-Pinocchio claim, either out of a duty to be accurate or concern that spreading false information could be politically damaging.
Not Trump. The president keeps going long after the facts are clear, in what appears to be a deliberate effort to replace the truth with his own, far more favorable, version of it. He is not merely making gaffes or misstating things, he is purposely injecting false information into the national conversation.
To accurately reflect this phenomenon, The Washington Post Fact Checker is introducing a new category — the Bottomless Pinocchio. That dubious distinction will be awarded to politicians who repeat a false claim so many times that they are, in effect, engaging in campaigns of disinformation.
The bar for the Bottomless Pinocchio is high: The claims must have received three or four Pinocchios from The Fact Checker, and they must have been repeated at least 20 times. Twenty is a sufficiently robust number that there can be no question the politician is aware that his or her facts are wrong. The list of Bottomless Pinocchios will be maintained on its own landing page ( https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/fact-checker-most-repeated-disinformation/?utm_term=.5636f7c7acab ).
The Fact Checker has not identified statements from any other current elected official who meets the standard other than Trump. In fact, 14 statements made by the president immediately qualify for the list.”
It is good to see fact checkers applying rigorous standards to political lying.[1] This is more evidence that as a lying politician, Trump is both qualitatively and quantitatively different than any other politician. In his blatant contempt for truth and reason, Trump is unique, at least since the rise of fact checking, if not in all American history
. Footnote:
1. If it were up to B&B, the number of repeat lies to establish campaigns of disinformation would be ten. Once a lie has been repeated on ten separate occasions, that is sufficient evidence for rational people to call it a disinformation campaign.
B&B orig: 12/10/18
The Washington Post fact checker has instituted a new category of political lie. WaPo writes:
“Trump’s willingness to constantly repeat false claims has posed a unique challenge to fact-checkers. Most politicians quickly drop a Four-Pinocchio claim, either out of a duty to be accurate or concern that spreading false information could be politically damaging.
Not Trump. The president keeps going long after the facts are clear, in what appears to be a deliberate effort to replace the truth with his own, far more favorable, version of it. He is not merely making gaffes or misstating things, he is purposely injecting false information into the national conversation.
To accurately reflect this phenomenon, The Washington Post Fact Checker is introducing a new category — the Bottomless Pinocchio. That dubious distinction will be awarded to politicians who repeat a false claim so many times that they are, in effect, engaging in campaigns of disinformation.
The bar for the Bottomless Pinocchio is high: The claims must have received three or four Pinocchios from The Fact Checker, and they must have been repeated at least 20 times. Twenty is a sufficiently robust number that there can be no question the politician is aware that his or her facts are wrong. The list of Bottomless Pinocchios will be maintained on its own landing page ( https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/fact-checker-most-repeated-disinformation/?utm_term=.5636f7c7acab ).
The Fact Checker has not identified statements from any other current elected official who meets the standard other than Trump. In fact, 14 statements made by the president immediately qualify for the list.”
It is good to see fact checkers applying rigorous standards to political lying.[1] This is more evidence that as a lying politician, Trump is both qualitatively and quantitatively different than any other politician. In his blatant contempt for truth and reason, Trump is unique, at least since the rise of fact checking, if not in all American history
. Footnote:
1. If it were up to B&B, the number of repeat lies to establish campaigns of disinformation would be ten. Once a lie has been repeated on ten separate occasions, that is sufficient evidence for rational people to call it a disinformation campaign.
B&B orig: 12/10/18
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