Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Monday, July 29, 2024

Fiddly bits: Petition to sign; Trump says he is not Christian; New use for Wi-Fi jammers

MoveOn.org has is collecting signatures on a petition to have Clarence Thomas impeached. The petition is at this link and it takes a few seconds to sign it, just be sure to uncheck the box at the bottom of the petition if you do not want emails from the group. There are close to 1.39 million signatures so far.

Get out there and support Clarence by
getting him impeached! He deserves it!
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In this 26 second video clip at 17-18 sec. into the clip, DJT says "I'm not Christian." 


I've listened to that part of the video repeatedly and it really does sound like he said what the captioning says. A Daily KOS article comments on this exact point:
Did Trump Confess: "I'm Not Christian?" 
2nd Update: Guardian Drops Quote

Update: I’ve read the comments that he was actually saying, “I’m a Christian.” Listening to the clip some more, I’m not sure either way. The Guardian story linked by B sides in the comments is still up, so for now my title is in the form of a question. I have also added an “unproven” tag.

“You won’t have to vote any more, my beautiful Christians. 
I love you, Christians. I’m not Christian.”

I’ve listened to the clip, over and over, not really able to believe what I heard, but there it is.

Donald Trump has finally come forward to clarify his position on Christians. He loves them, for their votes, but he is not one of them. 

Personally, I think that line is more politically dangerous than admitting he doesn’t intend to let people vote again if he gets back in office. Heck, we knew that.

But coming right out and admitting he’s no believer, just a huckster hustling the Christians for their votes? That’s new.

And, imo, it should be news.
According to Wikipedia, rational people of good will should practice the Principle of Charity, which requires interpreting a speaker's statements in the most rational way possible and, in the case of any argument, considering its best, strongest possible interpretation.

In a case like this, what is the best, strongest possible interpretation? If one adopts DJT's mindset and intent, he would say he said "I'm a Christian", not "I'm not a Christian." If one adopts the mindset of a rational pro-democracy person of good will, knowing that DJT is a chronic liar, a bullshitter** and a grifter, one can easily say that he accidentally said "I'm not a Christian" and is lying when he denies it.

Q: Did he say it or not?


** Bullshit: Rhetoric without concern for truth or falsity, but instead focused on telling good story and/or persuasion by any means, rational, truthful or not.


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tom's Hardware reports about a new use for Wi-Fi jammers:
LAPD warns residents after spike in burglaries using 
Wi-Fi jammers that disable security cameras, smart doorbells

Wilshire-area neighborhoods were told to be particularly vigilant

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