Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Saturday, October 12, 2019

Queering Politics 2: The Child and Queer Purpose

fuck the social order and the Child in whose name we're collectively terrorized; fuck Annie; fuck the waif from Les Mis; fuck the poor, innocent kid on the Net; fuck Laws both with capital ls and with small; fuck the whole network of Symbolic relations and the future that serves as its prop" - J. Halberstam


To even begin to understand queer political theory in general we must understand the very essence of our own politics. We must ask ourselves why we even have politics, and what we are trying to accomplish with them.

What is the unifying point on which we build our future? Consider Baedan's take (A Journal of Queer Nihilism):

... the Child is the fantastic symbol for the eternal proliferation of class society. The Child represents the succession of generations and the continuation of this society beyond the lifespans of its living members. All politics, being concerned primarily with the Child, then reveal themselves to be only ever a process by which to manage and secure the continued existence of society.


This notion is referred to by queer theorists as variations of "reproductive futurity" or "the reproduction of futurity", and it represents a foundation of civilization itself, and all political discourse.

While the The Child is not literally the children, who are as bound up in social machinations as the rest of us, if not moreso, but rather the concept of a "better future for our children" that is bound up in reproduction. Naturally queer theorists would challenge this typically taken for granted notion since we queers aren't bound up in the reproductive cycle of humanity, but rather exist in its shadows, which itself carries some cost with it:

To quote Guy Hocquenghem (The Screwball Asses):

As long as we are not burned at the stake or locked up in asylums, we continue to flounder in the ghettos of nightclubs, public restrooms and sidelong glances, as if that misery had become the habit of our happiness. And so, with the help of the state, do we build our own prisons.

This is a byproduct of that existence outside the framework of reproductive futurity, and outside of the reproductive family unit. Interestingly enough, scripture rightly exiles us from the kingdom, reflecting this.

Social conservatives attempt to eradicate, convert or cast us out, understanding the crisis of our existence with respect to the the reproduction of futurity.

Social liberals attempt to bring us into that framework through same sex marriage and otherwise attempting to normalize us. In doing so however, there's assimilation involved as a matter of course.

Quoting Lee Edelman (No Future):

For the liberal’s view of society, which seems to accord the queer a place, endorses no more than the conservative right’s the queerness of resistance to futurism and thus the queerness of the queer. While the right wing imagines the elimination of queers (or of the need to confront their existence), the left would eliminate queerness by shining the cool light of reason upon it, hoping thereby to expose it as merely a mode of sexual expression free of the all-pervasive coloring, the determining fantasy formation, by means of which it can seem to portend, and not for the right alone, the undoing of the social order and its cynosure, the Child. Queerness thus comes to mean nothing for both: for the right wing, the nothingness always at war with the positivity of civil society; for the left, nothing more than a sexual practice in need of demystification.


If Edelman is correct, this leaves the existence of queerness as queerness in question. What happens when it's completely normalized? Or is it even possible, looking at the mixed success of US race relations and black integration as first class citizens?

If it is, Edelman is effectively arguing that this would mark the end of queerness. He's not exactly wrong, as it makes queerness completely mundane, removes the taboo of it, and he (and I) would argue, separates it from its very purpose, which is to subvert. Returning to Edelman, speaking on the purpose of queerness:

To figure the undoing of civil society, the death drive of the dominant order, is neither to be nor to become that drive; such a being is not the point. Rather, acceding to that figural position means recognizing and refusing the consequences of grounding reality in denial of that drive. As the death drive dissolves those congealments of identity that permit us to know and survive as ourselves, so the queer must insist on disturbing, on queering, social organization as such—on disturbing, and therefore on queering ourselves and our investment in such organization. For queerness can never define an identity; it can only ever disturb one. And so, when I argue, as I aim to do here, that the burden of queerness is to be located less in the assertion of an oppositional political identity than in opposition to politics as the governing fantasy of realizing identities, I am proposing no platform or position from which queer sexuality or any queer subject might finally and truly become itself, as if it could somehow manage thereby to achieve an essential queerness. I am suggesting instead that the efficacy of queerness, its real strategic value, lies in its resistance to a symbolic reality that only ever invests us as subjects insofar as we invest ourselves in it, clinging to its governing fictions, its persistent sublimations, as reality itself.


This is a powerful statement, but it can be difficult to unpack. He's basically saying here that queerness is subversive by nature, and that queerness operates best in the negative, as a sort of anti-politic that challenges the very nature of our relationship with and our persistent illusions of society, of politics, of our world.

It undermines the social order, and thus is both dangerous and necessary. The reactionaries are right to fear our integration.

Returning to Edelman once again:

We might do well to consider this less as an instance of hyperbolic rant and more as a reminder of the disorientation that queer sexualities should entail: "acceptance or indifference to the homosexual movement will result in society’s destruction by allowing civil order to be redefined and by plummeting ourselves, our children and grandchildren into an age of godlessness. Indeed, the very foundation of Western Civilization is at stake." Before the self-righteous bromides of liberal pluralism spill from our lips, before we supply once more the assurance that ours is another kind of love but a love like his nonetheless, before we piously invoke the litany of our glorious contributions to the civilizations of east and west alike, dare we pause for a moment to acknowledge that he might be right—or, more important, that he ought to be right: that queerness should and must destroy such notions of "civil order" through a rupturing of our foundational faith in the reproduction of futurity?


Queerness must exist in an antagonistic relationship with civilization.

Edelman never covers the root reasons for this which leaves his polemic floundering in nihilism.

I'd argue our relationship with civilization, indeed the entire relationship of the death drive with civilization is the lifeblood of adaptation. Existing outside of, and athwart civilization, ripping and tearing at its edges we give room for new social growth and change. Same sex marriage being an example of that adaptation, but it goes deeper. Our inroads into fashion, into media, into art, into cooking, into civil rights, into outrageous sexually tinged displays like Pride that expand or change what is acceptable, made more powerful because we're outsiders. We're more likely to sacrifice the queen/throw away the playbook and create. Drag performances and the very existence of trans people challenge social gender norms and change what we think about gender expression, presentation, and identity. In a myriad of ways, large and small, we are changing society the more society is embracing us. Edelman is right to call us the gravediggers of society. We bury your dead (social detritus, like the gender binary or your marriage stricture). But we also create.

Friday, October 11, 2019

Emergent GOP Election Tactics

The New York Times reports that the continuing rise of Elizabeth Warren is prompting GOP propagandists to ratchet up their dark free speech tactics against her. The NYT writes:
An email from the Republican National Committee on Tuesday offered a clear preview of how the party would seek to undermine her if she becomes the Democratic nominee: “It’s not just her heritage Fauxcahontas has been lying about to get ahead. Like her false claim of Native American status, this is another example of Warren seemingly shifting the facts of her life story for personal gain.” (Ms. Warren has said she did not advance her career by identifying herself as Native American, an assertion backed up by an extensive Boston Globe investigation.)

“The more examples like this that surface, the more it will stick with voters that this is someone who cannot be trusted,” Ms. Harrington [a GOP operative] said.

Regardless, the Republican National Committee dismissed Ms. Warren’s description of losing her job, citing a 2007 interview in which she discussed her public-school teaching career but did not mention being forced out, as well as records showing that the school board had approved a contract for Ms. Warren for the next school year.
The NYT points out that the president will “tear down” any Democratic nominee for 2020, just as he did to political opponents in both parties in the 2016 election. Conservatives are also now rejecting as a lie, Warren’s story about losing a teaching job in 1971 because she was pregnant. Warren stands by her story, but that has put her on the defensive, arguably weakening her credibility. It is clear that the GOP will smear, lie and do anything possible to destroy any credible political threat to the president.

The hypocrisy here is obvious. None of the lies that the president has inundated the American people with ever since he announced his candidacy have much or any negative impact on the perceptions of the president's honesty or trustworthiness among most conservatives. For the most part, conservatives accept the president’s lies and deceit as harmless or non-existent, but they will find every democrat lie and amplify it into something hideous.

In a another article, the Washington Post reports that although Facebook has been active in trying to tamp down on disinformation on its platform, it codified a loophole last year. Politicians will continue to be allowed to lie as much as they want on Facebook. Facebook will continue to try to stop regular people from spreading viral falsehoods, but politicians have a green light to be liars.

The reason for Facebook’s move is obvious. WaPo writes:
This decision, put into place last year, has sparked a sharp backlash this week among Democrats, who complain that it gives President Trump free rein to use major social media platforms as disinformation machines. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), a leading presidential candidate, made this point in a Facebook ad Thursday in which she joked that the company had endorsed Trump, adding that its policies allow “a candidate to intentionally lie to the American people.”

Warren’s ad was the latest salvo in a growing campaign by Democrats to pressure social media companies to curb Trump’s ability to push demonstrably untrue information on their platforms. Last week, Democrat Joseph Biden asked Facebook to remove a Trump campaign ad that made false claims, prompting the company to refuse on the grounds that political speech is not covered by the expansive fact-checking system it put in place after the 2016 presidential election.
Facebook is probably not endorsing the president so much as it is trying to protect its revenues, profits and freedom from regulations and vindictive politicians who want to lie to the public. Regardless of what they may say to the contrary, probably most American companies operate on the immoral premise that anything that threatens revenues and profits is immoral and is to be avoided whenever possible. For the most part, the business of business is privatizing profit as much as possible and externalizing costs and risks as much as possible. Making America a better, more equitable place is not on the agenda. That immoral mindset dictates that Facebook allows politicians to be liars.

Facebook users: Caveat emptor -- GOP lies will keep coming. The question is whether democrats will respond in kind, and if they do, whether on balance it would help them or hurt them. The guess from here is that it would probably hurt more than help. To some extent, maybe that reflects an ideological asymmetry in attitudes toward political lies.


SOMETHING TO PONDER

SOMETHING TO PONDER:

When we take off our partisan hats, and stop demonizing the other side as "all evil" and our side as "all good", what would the difference be in our thought patterns?

After all this Forum invites us to look at politics a bit differently:
Pragmatic politics focused on the public interest for those uncomfortable with America's two-party system and its way of doing politics.

So is it time for a multiple party system in the U.S. of A ?

What to YOUR mind would that look like?

Well, for me, it looks like this: we have a multiple party system, except they get drowned out by the two big ones.

AND if you split your vote, you might end up not getting the government you want.

Example: in 2016, I voted Green (Jill Stein), much to my disgust, because my vote might have been one of those that put Trump in the White House.

SO QUESTIONS ABOUND:

Do we vote our conscience or do we vote pragmatically? Do we hold our noses and ONLY vote Progressive because we are tired of the Middle, or do we vote Democrats no matter who the candidate is just so we can defeat Trump?

HOW do we get to a place, where there will be viable alternative to the two party system? OR are we stuck with what we have? AND IF SO, what do we do about it so OUR voices get heard.

I have a theory: we as a nation are NOT ready yet to go full Progressive, we need to find a way to get the Progressives to support Moderate Democrats to win back the White House, after which we can start thinking about taking the Dems further left.

WE SIMPLY CAN NOT AFFORD THE LUXURY of voting third party, like I did last time, or of splitting the Left, if we want to have a civil nation again, but the question remains:

What, IF anything, can we as a people do, to change the system we have for the future, so more voices can be heard?
SAME question can be asked of Rightwingers: is it time for a separate party that advocates for Conservative ideals but will stop appealing to only the Far Right?

Any radical ideas out there??

Queering Politics Part 1: Social Factionalization

Any time we create stricture around behavior there must be people who subvert it. 
This is necessary both so we can define the boundaries for the behavior in the first place (what it means to be a "citizen" of the group or society), but also so those boundaries can change over time in response to changing circumstance.
This is true of queerness but also of madness and of criminality.

Without social stricture around sexuality we could not have queerness. Queerness would serve no purpose. We might still have same sex attraction and sexual behavior but we'd have no boundaries around it, no way to define it, and there would be no subversion - no taboo - to it. Therefore it becomes socially neutral.

Without legal criminal codes we could not have criminals. Criminals would serve no purpose. We might still have things like theft and murder, but we'd have no boundaries around it, no way to define it and there would be no social subversion to it. It becomes socially neutral. The crime of homosexuality begat the legalization of it - the crime helped change the law.

Without the concept of sanity we could not have madness. The mad would serve no purpose. We might still have things like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder but we'd have no boundaries around it, no way to define it, and there would be no social subversion to it. It becomes socially neutral. The madness of homosexuality begat the normalization of it.

We create these groups not only for the purpose of sorting and categorization, but also to influence behavior. Membership to a group comes with a social contract. However, outgroups can and sometimes will alter the behavior of an ingroup over time by whittling away at the edges of it. This force is stronger the larger or dominant the outgroup is. Consider the Christians in early Greece and Rome, and the adoption of pagan holidays, but even minority outgroups can agitate to change ingroup parameters over time. Consider queer rights movements and other civil rights movements did in the US.





Thursday, October 10, 2019

Trump defends abandoning the Kurds by saying they didn't help the US in WWII

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/trump-defends-abandoning-the-kurds-by-saying-they-didnt-help-the-us-in-wwii/ar-AAIxwW2?li=AAggNb9&ocid=mailsignout

President Donald Trump on Wednesday defended his decision to abandon the Kurds to a Turkish military incursion in Syria by saying they didn't help the US during World War II.
This came amid reports Turkish ground troops were crossing the border into Syria following airstrikes that began earlier in the day.
"They didn't help us in the Second World War, they didn't help us with Normandy," Trump said of the Kurds. He added, "With all of that being said, we like the Kurds."
Earlier in the day, Trump in a statement released by the White House said he did not endorse the Turkish military operation and thought it was a "bad idea." But he did not reference the Kurds once, nor did he signal any immediate response from the US to thwart Turkey's actions.
The Trump administration on Sunday abruptly announced the US was withdrawing troops stationed in northeast Syria ahead of a Turkish operation. The move has been broadly condemned in Washington, including by top congressional Republicans and former Trump administration officials, as many feel Trump paved the way for Turkey to go after key US allies.
The Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces bore the brunt of the US-led campaign against ISIS, losing roughly 11,000 fighters in the process.
On Wednesday, when asked by reporters whether he felt the Syria retreat and treatment of the Kurds sent a poor message to other potential US allies, Trump said, "Alliances are very easy." The president said it "won't be" hard for the US to form new partnerships.

Wednesday, October 9, 2019

As an adult and knowing what you know now…



-Was there ever really any hope for humanity’s continued future existence?

-As a species, were we / are we destined to fail?


LET’S IMAGINE

Imagine these things, for example:

  • A “model planet” that environmentally thrives, utilizing the virtually free resources that nature provides (wind, solar, hydro, bio) to yield a relatively pristine and beautifully balanced ecosystem, with no waste.
  • A species that joins together, across the globe, to work in harmony, advancing itself ever upward through continuous free higher education, healthy living, positive role models, and promoting universally constructive rather than destructive value systems.
  • Reasonable population control mechanisms, encouraged for, and based on, planetary resource sustainability
  • A sharing of and distributing of planetary resources, fairly, so there are no more hungry bellies or people living in squalor.

Off the top of my head, these would be some positive forces, IMO.   


So, what’s the problem?  Why can’t this be our modus operandi?  Where did we go wrong?  Give me your list of reasons.

“Some men see things as they are and ask why.  I dream of things that never were and ask ‘why not’?” –Robert F. Kennedy

Thanks for posting and recommending.