Etiquette



DP Etiquette

First rule: Don't be a jackass.

Other rules: Do not attack or insult people you disagree with. Engage with facts, logic and beliefs. Out of respect for others, please provide some sources for the facts and truths you rely on if you are asked for that. If emotion is getting out of hand, get it back in hand. To limit dehumanizing people, don't call people or whole groups of people disrespectful names, e.g., stupid, dumb or liar. Insulting people is counterproductive to rational discussion. Insult makes people angry and defensive. All points of view are welcome, right, center, left and elsewhere. Just disagree, but don't be belligerent or reject inconvenient facts, truths or defensible reasoning.

Tuesday, December 3, 2024

Time to rank Joe, the Dem party, etc.

Now that the wave of emotions from the election has subsided some and heads are cooler, its time to rank some stuff.

Adding to things to consider, Joe released this statement regarding his pardon of Hunter. He gives his justification for the pardon. Previously he promised to not pardon his son, but changed his mind.


One can only wonder what jail would have been like for Hunter, if one takes as a model how Putin, who has immunity from all crimes, official acts or not, treated Alexei Navalny while he was in a Russian jail on trumped up criminal charges. To be clear, Putin had Navalny poisoned and then murdered when poison failed to get the job done. Would DJT sink that low? Who knows? Maybe.

Where does Joe rank among US presidents, taking into account all the good, bad and ambiguous things he has done (Infrastructure bill, Gaza war, clamp down on pro-Palestinian protesters, climate policy in the Inflation reduction Act, withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad messaging to the public, etc.) and left undone, but probably could have done (illegal immigration, etc.)? 

For context, here is how professionals rank Joe and some other US presidents.    



What about ranking DJT as a president, candidate and president-elect?

In view of all the circumstances, successes, failures and muddle throughs, how does the Dem party rank from 2020 to now in 2024 on a scale of 1-7 where: 

1 = the worst possible in a messy democracy
2 = solidly bad but could have been noticeably worse
3 = modestly bad on balance, but not as bad as 2
4 = about as mediocre as politics can get, part good & part bad & part unclear
5 = modestly good on balance, but not as good as 6
6 = solidly good but could have been noticeably better
7 = the best possible in a messy democracy


Using the same scale, what rank for the GOP from 2020 to now in 2024? What about the American public?

What are the top 2 or 3 most important factors in your assessment of Joe, DJT, the Dems, the Repubs and the American people?

Me tentatively:
Joe: 25 (poor messaging, failed immigration policy, pro-environment policy)
DJT: 46 (rabidly anti-democracy and rule of law, deeply corrupt, thoroughly morally rotted)
Dem party: 2 (poor messaging, out of touch, inept)
Repub party: 1 (solidly anti-democracy and rule of law, deeply corrupt, thoroughly morally rotted)
American people: 3 (too many low information, too many unreasonably deceived and manipulated, unreasonable expectations)

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